Guys.....isn't this going a bit too far?

[FatAndFaithless]

So you'd force the woman by law to stay pregnant, then give birth, but you somehow don't see that as anyone's rights being infringed?

Wow, pool.

But you'd be okay denying the right of a baby to live and doesn't see it as it's right to live being infringed, right?

On the one side you have a baby that didn't even ask to be born and now everybody's out to fucking kill it. On the other side there's a woman that had a say in putting it there even though it could've been avoided and now is throwing a fit about how unfair life is.

This is why this discussion is so useless with you pool.  You view one side as literally advocating for murdering babies.  This is a complex topic that involves conflicting rights.  One of the two's rights will be valued over the other.  My position is valuing the right of the woman, the sentient, conscious woman whose body is her own and cannot be used against her will, over the rights of the fetus.  I value the woman over the fetus.  You value the fetus over the woman.  But don't pretend like you're not advocating for infringing upon the rights of the woman, and please don't frame my side of the discussion as a bunch of baby killers.  You want to do that, fine, go fuck yourself and the conversation's over.  See how productive that was?