Transgendered children

[Violet]

The 'right way' AKA deny people their rights until the majority supports it.  Which is fucking bullshit.  You probably also had a problem with Loving v. Virginia.

Social change should be slow; fast change is irresponsible. I will say that minorities should be looking for acceptance by majority populations by being respectable and by themselves changing hearts and changing minds. I mean, it's like Trump and the popular vote: do you believe that it matters, and that a majority supporting a person/group is important? Of course we should defend the rights of minorities... WHERE other persons' rights are not being infringed upon (the cake debacle from the left, for instance. That was disgusting in the way that the woman not signing marriage licenses was also disgusting).

Wouldn't know, not familiar with the case.

You've attacked this lesbian couple--for absolutely no reason other than your own self hatred.  And then attacked their child for--having pink hair.  Which I find to be total bullshit. I mean bitch, please.  I know young people with all different kinds of hair colors that all turned out fine.  Nobody had any problem with them except the bullshit traditionalists like yourself.

My perception of them my have been incorrect... a lot of my worst information (and renewed interest) regarding this case has come from a pretty intense portion of the internet. That said, I still do believe that their situation is very suspicious, and I still do believe that they may have some hidden motives. There've been some very intense monsters out there, Divinity.

Traditionalists are important... without them you wouldn't have a stable or distinct culture anywhere. I haven't always been one... but I am proud to be one here and now. I've known children with zany hair colours myself... not as many success stories from what i've seen (I've got a sister who's a total brat, for instance).

If you're offended by how I speak, then too damn bad.  Go find yourself a safe space.   I'm sick and fucking tired of you traditionalists who call people 'weird' because they're different.   Who think that lesbians, gays, single moms and dads, can't POSSIBLY raise their child properly.  Especially since I was a single mother myself.  (And before you go accusing me of teaching my daughter to 'hate men' because apparently that's what you think people do--I'll say get fucked.)  We're not living in the 1920's anymore.  I know you wish we were, but we're not, and we're not going back to that time no matter how much your orange messiah wants to.

I'm offended by calling someone a pedophile without any evidence of such. That is an incredible allegation that has tremendous capacity to cause harm to a person's reputation and/or their business and/or their family and/or their person. There are some lines that your parents may not have taught you to not cross, but I'm telling you now: calling someone a pedophile (or a rapist, as if you don't recognize the one...) is wrong to do without evidence. If you're going to do it, then do it because you have significant evidence and/or concerns regarding something you have witnessed. To do otherwise is irresponsible.

I don't need a safe space, i'm not even sure how leftists can even say that without a shred of irony... you'll notice that I'm in here arguing on a 8 sides with 7 people? That's not what a safe-space needing person engages in... it's just wholly inaccurate. Observe a proper bite that would seem to be evidenced by your vitriol, as it relates to the way I feel children ought to be taught: while I havent said this before, I could indeed ask now of you if perhaps a person so filled full of hatred of your fellow (heh) man as you have been acting within this thread DID raise her children to hate men: how could I know? I surely couldn't. It would seem to be within your personality to do so, though, hence the validity of a criticism levied wonting refutation. That is how to properly work any vestige of ad hom into an argument as part of furthering the understanding of the bias of the other party, according to response. In that way while it has nothing to do with the overall argument, it can help two people to better frame an argument such that two disputing parties can come to a basic level of understanding regarding terms and bias, and can better present their arguments. Consider this an unintentionally condescending education:

When you call someone a pedophile, you don't just get to run away from that scott free... that is an incredibly serious (on level of libel law invocation) claim that is entirely outside of a person's right to make without any evidence. Tell me, what evidence do you have that I am a pedophile (let alone the thing where you think i absolutely must hate myself to disagree with you, as that's a proper and fair level of back and forth). You really do have to tell me... at least, if you want to see the respect of continued dialogue. It's really gone too far, Divinity, the moment you said that.

As for single mothers: the data speaks for itself. It isn't a good picture. 2 parents is always better. Traditional parenting is best. I absolutely do believe that single motherhood statistically speaking leads more often to less successful children by comparison, especially when welfare comes into the equation and the children aren't raised to understand that work is either necessary or to be respected, and often leaves them unprepared for the reality of a working life.

I infact don't wish we were living in the 1920s: I'd have killed myself. Why do you consider to assert this nonsense baselessly? What is your stake in my preferring any time period whatsoever in the course of human history?

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So basically; People should fight to their last dying breath for what should be a basic right, just because some people - who it won't effect - Don't want it to be a thing.

Oh, and your own personal experience is apparently gospel fact about everybody everywhere all over the world...
And i'm gonna take a stab in the dark and say the kid probably wanted it. I know my little sister wanted to dye her hair pink when she was that young, so i don't see a problem? The only reason we didn't let her is because the school she went to would have thrown a complete hissy fit. But i guess that makes my law abiding, police officers for parents actually bad parents, right?

No? It is in my opinion not the right way to go about things to apply bad blanket laws across the nation that bring with them the possibility of later being used as precedence for the indefensible (shariah law, polygamy, transspecial marriage). Slippery slope and all that... but it's entirely open if someone wants to bring the argument for polygamy right now. Is polygamy not in accordance with the 14th amendment as well?

I just don't think that anyone should get shit deducted on their taxes for simply being married. My personal argument supersedes the legal opinion... why does the government dictate who you can or can't marry in the first place? Why does marriage mean anything in and of itself? Prenuptial agreements is really the place where government should be involved, not whether a person wants to participate in a the tradition of marriage But as I say: pointless argument at this point, and it'd be a real derail to discuss it. Anyways:

How many children with pink hair have you seen end up in a suit and tie? Curious. Teaching children to become responsible adults would be what I consider the responsible technique. If you believe differently, you can do it another way. I'll surely judge you for your way, and you'll surely judge me for mine... and that is surely acceptable?

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Yeah, first gays can get married, then polygamy, then sex with kids and marrying goats!  Cmon...try harder?

Roe v Wade, next?  As performance art, Violet, this is bland and derivative.

Pretty much. Seriously, how is polygamy not a concern with the manner in which this is being done? Then again, what should we have against polygamy to begin with, heh.

I'd have preferred interracial marriage had been done by the legislative branch of the united states as well. I believe in the separation of powers, that's my schtik. For all the hate of trump, a lot of you are sure loving the separation of powers blocking him at every turn, aren't you?

Not a question of art this time, ol' friend

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OFC you can...because ultimately you;re just like "those people" anyway...and you know this.  Why don;t you just go dye your hair purple and stop bitching?  

It is purple. Hence the bitching

What I think is far more important for me than what anyone in my environment thinks. I've begun to think differently as a result of my environment, sure... but that's just life for ya, eh?

So, if nobody has to do anything based on what you or anyone else thinks..why do you blame the lgbt community for what conservatives think about you?  You must realize that they already thought those things about you...purple hair or pink, before they knew you..and even back when the lgbt community properly knew it's place and kept it's filthy mouth shut.....?  It seems, to me, as though you find yourself aping the propaganda of people who fucking -loathe- you, and always have...?  

How did that happen....and don't say "because of the lgbt community"...because you just established that these sorts of things aren't forced by anyone, they're your decisions, based upon what you value in your life.......

There's always been a pretty slow and anti-science contingent to the conservative party, so.. no. I don't blame them for what conservatives think.

I do, however, blame them for what the moderates think. I, luckily enough, loathe pretty much ever party. But I've always respected the moderates in this world... and when people who've treated me well enough most of my life suddenly flip? It's a pretty big blow. There's a very wide conservative rise in the united states (and the whole of the west, really) happening right now, and I absolutely blame the hysteria of the left for a lot of that. The LGBT crowd just happens to be largely leftist (for good reason, it's been in their best interest regarding social issues in the past), and transtrenders just so happen to be some of the loudest and least compromising members of the overall 'trans' community.

Of course it's not entirely anyone's sole fault that the things that happen happen... but large groups of people do have effects.