Transgendered children

[Violet]

Which would be the polygamists problem..if they want to get married to three people they're gonna have a property issue headache....every married couple has to make that decision, though, you realize?

There's a default case in states that don't require prenups. Every married couple *should* make that decision if they want fair legal recognition in the event of divorce... but not all decide to.

-snipped because what the actual fuck?  Go hash out you "hur dur activist judges" bit with someone remotely interested, lol.

Weren't we talking about a specific case, in which scotus declared miscegenation laws to be unconstitutional in the face of recalcitrant states that would not, like others had, of their own accord, handle the problem legislatively?  Don't fly off into lalaland with your own examples......

As I said, long topic, for its own thread. We're into it on a topical level only, I'm glad enough to be rid of it for the moment (after all it doesn't apply within this thread enough for significant focus).

I'd say it's even more complex than that, as law so often is.

You aren't even your own friend in your illness, I don't know why you'd expect anyone else to be.  With that said..it seems to me that the people who would allow you to live your life as you wish to live it..rather than legislate you away just -might- be on your side...Violet.......even if you come across to them as a shitty person for reasons you're completely oblivious to.  

I'm not oblivious to the fact that abject disgust oozes from my every pore. There's a reason I don't have many friends, and that reason is me. Unless there is something else I happen to be missing, in which case by all means I would like to hear it (so that I can better understand myself, and potentially rectify the perceived reasons for my shitty personhood that I'm as-of-yet unaware of).

I'm content enough to do what I can for myself with my own money... whether other people are 'on my side' in their minds or in mine: it has little bearing on my decision to pay for my own surgery, my own hormones (cannot WAIT to be off of obamacare infact), and my own life. As long as anyone, on my side or not, respects that enough to allow me to make my way: I'm happy enough making it my way.

I certainly don't want people of the 84 alternative genders speaking for me, whether the masses support their lunacy or not.

Well, if you can't find any, but are capable of recognizing bias...as you seem to be claiming above, I'm not sure why the presence of bias would be a problem in the first place, whatever it is you mean by bias?

Because I despise lies delivered to my doorstep. It's a problem because I have two sets of news that are peddling me lies, and therefore there is no way to find the truth of many matters, as recognizing which portions are or are not lies is an ever-evolving art. The closest I can get is to hear from the horse's mouth (such as trump's tweets, or any major group publicly doing something and me catching just the raw data (such as wikileaks, and various departmental drivel)). In a world where everyone is lying to me purposely or just misinformed: I have to parse what I can see as true or not.

I need a grounding agent. Social media comments sections are their very own array of unaccountability and misinformation (but they're the only place I seem able to find any proper assessment of the facts and them being challenged). I feel very much trapped in a world where nobody seems interested in just giving me the raw data (just dumping it on me, no opinion pieces, just what's happening with as little editing as possible), and letting me just work out what it may or may not mean.

This place used to be that for me... there was a very wide net of people who believed an incredibly diverse set of things, and cited a vast array of sources that were largely challenged by the commentators here. I remember being able to trust that I had at least a basis on the major happenings of the world... sure, perhaps I was always beset on all sides by hacks (and King Fool for my ear), but my rose coloured goggles remember that place fairly fondly. I've never found a worthy replacement since.

Little gripin there on my part

Cognitive whittling.

Another beautiful set of words. Watch out, or you may yet upset my #1 all time favorite: sexual dimorphism.

You referred to a change in the way your moderate friends treated you...and seem to be attributing it to the same laundry list of conservative canards present throughout these posts....but isn't it possible that your moderate friends have suddenly started to treat you differently...because you've been saying the sorts of shit you've said in these posts?  The only common factor in all of your interpersonal relationships is yourself.  

Ah, right. No, I mean became decidedly more conservative is what I mean. I don't get particularly close with very many people I suppose. Friends may be a misnomer, even. Peers is more sensible, acquaintances as well'd be more sensible. Cognitive whittling would be to say by 'friends' I mean 'people in my vicinity and on my facebook' kinda shit.

I don't know that I have anyone I'd call a friend (depends on how we define it), and we'd be talking semantics. I don't get too emotionally close to very many people, I am often an asshole, and I drop out of existence on a whim for stints of time that can last years. It'd probably be hard for someone so unfriendly to the core to have friends.

Do you, though, do you really...or are -you- the one imposing those attributions...again.  

If my perception was flawed: how would I know? I can't know without asking someone directly whether they've just suddenly become more conservative, or whether they always were and just didn't feel liberated and/or justified by the election to show their real feelings... I'm not sure how to say that without sounding very rude, and I'm not sure how well I can trust another person's self perception of their political views.

The only 'correct' way to argue this that I'm aware of an feel is framed beyond particular approach is, "Based on my understanding of what I believe I have seen and what I believe I have heard, the people I assume I associate with on rare occasions, seem to have drifted somewhat more right wing since about a year ago or so."

But saying that in that manner just makes me a totally twat, so I'm not really just how to win with that question (not to 'win' the argument, to manage to properly represent my thoughts in a way that we'll both find agreeable). It's a fair enough question though: I just don't know how I can answer that. Do I doubt myself, do I doubt my 'friends', or do I doubt nothing and carry on with my day with a slight internal errors review. I choose the third option.

A lot of what I say is belief based or opinion based. If the basis of forming that belief or opinion is compromised too much, then I don't know it... and while my outlook in many ways has darkened over the years: I find myself quite happy everything else considered, which is a significant improvement in my view, and I'm not too keen on going back to irresponsible levels of self-doubt.

I seem to remember a girl who told me she wasn't faking it, and how painful it was to have to fake it, the impossibility of faking it, the effect on her life and state of mind of faking it.  It;s strange, to me, to see you advocating for the imposition of all of the above on others...and further, arguing that it has some merit because tradition™ and the sensitive feelers of bigots who must be slowly mollycoddled into common human decency.

Oh Christ that's the worst. If you're gonna fake it: fake it good. It's the only way to go. Don't fail at faking it or you'll look like a fucking freak.

We've all gotta grow up someday, Rhythm. I don't believe anyone has to respect anyone who doesn't respect them... but I do believe that there are good ways of going about things, and shit ways of going about things. It's an eternal debate as to which ways are the good ways and which ways are the bad ways... and it all boils down to opinion in the end. That's all it can ever amount to: opinions.