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Silly Creationist
RE: Silly Creationist
(June 30, 2011 at 8:15 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: You don’t agree that when Christians take this same approach we get criticized?

Well, the difference here is many Christians claim absolute knowledge on things that atheists are willing to say they don't know. I think if you do make a claim of knowledge you need to back it up. So if you ask me a specific question, like why I do not believe in the soul, I can back that up. Such a belief though is not a result of being an atheist, while most of Christians' beliefs are direct results of being Christian. That is the main point I'm trying to make. My worldview is not a result of being an atheist, but I am an atheist simply because of my view on religion.

Statler Waldorf Wrote:I feel like if you are going to make assumptions, and use these assumptions to gain knowledge, your worldview needs to provide a basis for these assumptions. You don’t agree?

This assumes that the foundation for my search for knowledge is because I am an atheist, but the only thing being an atheist has to do with my understanding is I do not subscribe the unknowable to God.

Statler Waldorf Wrote:It seems more like we all agree these things are necessary in order to know anything, but the only worldview that seems to have a justification for these assumptions is the theistic one (mono-theistic at that). When you have to borrow from someone else’s worldview in order to argue against it, it is a sign that your worldview is deficient. Remember, I am just assuming you have an atheistic worldview because you are an atheist. It might help if you clarified exactly what your worldview is.

See this is just it, I don't have a worldview. I have no overriding beliefs that dictate how I interpret the cosmos as a whole except for what I mentioned before. I try to interpret each bit of information on its own merits.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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