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Transgendered children
RE: Transgendered children
(February 9, 2017 at 7:00 am)Violet Wrote:
(February 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm)Regina Wrote: I'm just wondering, genuine question I'm not "judging" anyone I'm just curious to know, have there been many studies done on the effects hormone blockers might have on brain development at puberty?  

I'm sure the gender therapy doctors know more than all of us, but I just can't imagine it's that healthy and harmless, considering the stuff your head goes through as a teenager already without hormones.

I suppose time will tell as the first kids to try it get older.

It's one of the biggest problems I have with treating transgendered people: there are huge holes in the science, and we cannot state for certain exactly what causes transsexualism in the first place. We need way more information than we have.

Right now, I say we need to be very careful with how far back we push... there's been too much harm done in the name of expediting medical care without full grasp of the cause in otherwise nonlethal cases. If transtrenders are anything to go by: we're gonna be seeing a shit ton of hormonally fluctuating trans-wannabes over the next few years. I know a couple of people myself who've started and stopped hormones after a few years... if adults can be that fucking indecisive and crazy, then how fucking kooky could a kid get?

That's it, you have to be so sure.

There have also been studies done which have shown some children to have what looks like gender dysphoria... who then later grow out of it. There's some child gender therapists who seem to think there's an overlap between being trans and gay in childhood, that many kids who are going to grow up to be gay have dysphoria as kids and then lose it later. In fact keeping it 100% I'd probably even say I was one of those kids, I was a feminine as fuck little boy, played with girls toys and most of my friends were girls, acted like a girl.

My parents humoured it and just let me express freely as a feminine boy, but seriously thank goodness they weren't some of these super-liberal "my child is trans!" type parents who would have really shoved the idea down my throat. It would have got me into a lot of shit later on I'd have had to undo once my childhood dysphoria when away.

I just don't think it's a decision for children to make, and certainly not their parents. But then to be balanced, I do see the argument that the earlier someone transitions, the more passable they're going to end up. Male puberty can really fuck things up for a transwoman, growing too tall, getting broad man shoulders, perhaps even premature balding, it sucks. I think for that reason I can be somewhat sympathetic in allowing teens and possibly pre-teens to be on blockers and start their transition, like I said if it's a kid who has been consistently expressing transgenderism all through childhood.

Also going off-topic but as a quick point, I'm a gay man and I actually agree with you on Pride parades and their oversexualisation. They can be incredibly raunch for something that happens in broad daylight in public, and I don't think it's appropriate. Pride in itself is fine and a great fun event, but really save the leather thongs and the gimpsuits for the clubs and private parties ffs, not everything needs to be full-on raunch all the time. Some of these same gays probably then complain when straight people stereotype us as raunch sex-addicts. I wonder why...
"Adulthood is like looking both ways before you cross the road, and then getting hit by an airplane"  - sarcasm_only

"Ironically like the nativist far-Right, which despises multiculturalism, but benefits from its ideas of difference to scapegoat the other and to promote its own white identity politics; these postmodernists, leftists, feminists and liberals also use multiculturalism, to side with the oppressor, by demanding respect and tolerance for oppression characterised as 'difference', no matter how intolerable."
- Maryam Namazie

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Transgendered children - by KUSA - April 25, 2015 at 7:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 7:56 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 2:34 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - July 17, 2015 at 3:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2015 at 3:19 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 8:06 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 25, 2015 at 8:08 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 9:48 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 10:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 7:10 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 8:40 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 8:44 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 9:04 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 26, 2015 at 10:11 am
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - April 25, 2015 at 8:03 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Chad32 - April 25, 2015 at 8:14 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 25, 2015 at 8:24 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Chad32 - April 25, 2015 at 9:55 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 25, 2015 at 8:35 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Iroscato - April 25, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 25, 2015 at 8:49 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Minimalist - April 25, 2015 at 10:00 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 5:56 am
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 26, 2015 at 6:27 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 26, 2015 at 2:20 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - April 26, 2015 at 2:26 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 26, 2015 at 2:29 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 26, 2015 at 6:35 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 26, 2015 at 6:43 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by vorlon13 - April 26, 2015 at 9:43 am
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Transgendered children - by KUSA - April 26, 2015 at 7:10 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pyrrho - April 27, 2015 at 8:50 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 8:38 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - April 27, 2015 at 2:10 am
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - April 26, 2015 at 8:42 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 8:52 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 8:54 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 26, 2015 at 9:01 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 8:50 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - April 26, 2015 at 9:01 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 9:37 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Tiberius - April 26, 2015 at 11:02 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 9:39 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Napoléon - April 26, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:17 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 10:06 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 26, 2015 at 10:42 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - April 26, 2015 at 10:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 10:45 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 12:58 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 26, 2015 at 11:03 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - April 26, 2015 at 11:24 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - April 26, 2015 at 11:23 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Silver - April 27, 2015 at 2:16 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Pizza - April 27, 2015 at 9:39 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Mudhammam - April 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2015 at 9:39 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2015 at 11:07 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - April 27, 2015 at 11:12 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - April 27, 2015 at 10:36 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - April 27, 2015 at 10:38 am
RE: Transgendered children - by robvalue - April 27, 2015 at 6:13 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 16, 2015 at 12:36 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 16, 2015 at 10:42 am
RE: Transgendered children - by BrokenQuill92 - July 16, 2015 at 12:57 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by BrokenQuill92 - July 16, 2015 at 1:26 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by BrokenQuill92 - July 16, 2015 at 5:25 am
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 16, 2015 at 2:46 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 3:53 am
RE: Transgendered children - by rado84 - July 16, 2015 at 4:04 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - July 16, 2015 at 5:37 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Metis - July 17, 2015 at 9:33 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 16, 2015 at 8:01 am
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - July 16, 2015 at 10:36 am
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 17, 2015 at 2:30 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - July 17, 2015 at 4:13 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 17, 2015 at 9:57 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 10:22 am
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 10:25 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 17, 2015 at 12:56 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 17, 2015 at 12:47 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 17, 2015 at 3:49 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 17, 2015 at 1:11 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 3:42 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - July 17, 2015 at 3:55 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Neo-Scholastic - July 17, 2015 at 8:01 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 5:39 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by brewer - July 17, 2015 at 6:43 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - July 17, 2015 at 8:09 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by rossrocks88 - July 17, 2015 at 9:05 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by celtic.white - July 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 18, 2015 at 5:41 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Dystopia - July 18, 2015 at 6:09 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by brewer - July 18, 2015 at 6:57 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - July 18, 2015 at 7:00 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by The Grand Nudger - July 18, 2015 at 8:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by laurence_99 - July 25, 2015 at 10:57 am
Transgendered children - by vixene - August 1, 2015 at 9:46 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - August 1, 2015 at 10:03 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - August 2, 2015 at 5:11 am
RE: Transgendered children - by ignoramus - August 18, 2015 at 8:26 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Whateverist - August 2, 2015 at 9:56 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 2, 2015 at 3:31 pm
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Transgendered children - by 80sChild - August 17, 2015 at 6:36 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - August 17, 2015 at 6:58 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - August 17, 2015 at 7:03 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 17, 2015 at 11:04 pm
Transgendered children - by 80sChild - August 17, 2015 at 11:52 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - August 18, 2015 at 1:54 am
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Transgendered children - by 80sChild - August 18, 2015 at 6:56 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Lemonvariable72 - January 26, 2017 at 6:51 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 6, 2017 at 9:16 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 8, 2017 at 10:52 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 8, 2017 at 1:54 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Longhorn - February 8, 2017 at 2:29 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 8, 2017 at 3:09 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 8, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by The Grand Nudger - February 7, 2017 at 12:43 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 7, 2017 at 1:44 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by rexbeccarox - February 8, 2017 at 11:49 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 8, 2017 at 2:03 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by SteelCurtain - February 8, 2017 at 12:21 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - February 8, 2017 at 2:02 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 9, 2017 at 7:00 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - February 12, 2017 at 1:44 pm
RE: Transgendered children - by account_inactive - February 9, 2017 at 1:28 am
RE: Transgendered children - by Alex K - February 9, 2017 at 5:41 am
RE: Transgendered children - by The Grand Nudger - February 8, 2017 at 5:06 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by I_am_not_mafia - February 13, 2017 at 5:29 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Violet - February 9, 2017 at 5:24 am
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RE: Transgendered children - by Alex K - February 8, 2017 at 7:10 pm
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RE: Transgendered children - by Regina - February 8, 2017 at 9:50 pm
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