RE: Why would a perfect being make an imperfect world?
February 14, 2017 at 5:21 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2017 at 5:31 pm by SteveII.)
(February 14, 2017 at 3:47 pm)Asmodee Wrote:Steve Wrote:First, it does not follow that if Free Will is important in this life, it must be important in the next. Second, Free Will for the sake of Free Will is not what God measures as important in this life, it is what you do with the Free Will--choosing God. If you achieved this, the purpose of Free Will has been complete.
And Free Will is certainly throughout the Bible. Even with your objection that God tampers with it...isn't that just further proof that it exists?
My objection that God tampers with it was simply a way of pointing out that it wasn't apparently that important. Pharaoh was not given the opportunity to "choose God".
Where, in the Bible, does it in any way mention "free will"? Yes, you can choose or reject God, but again, that is a single choice, not an overall "free will" theme.
And quick note, the definition of "free will" the two of you are using doesn't match. On says it's "choosing Christ", the other "choosing God". It's almost as if you guys are making this shit up as you go along. Oh wait...YOU ARE!
So you admit that the Bible teaches that we have free will to "choose or reject God." So then regarding all 10 commandments and the 1000 other rules in the OT, that would just be more "choosing God?" The prophets and psalmist that lament the choices that people have made was more "choosing God?" The proverbs that tell you the best way to live, were more "choosing God?" Paul's teaching on the fruits of the spirit and chapter after chapter of Christian living were just more "choosing god?". So, you simply defined everything in the Bible as "choosing God" and then exempted it from the "overall free will theme". You don't seem to have a firm grasp on the issue.
Are you really distinguishing between "Christ" and "God" as an argument that we are making things up? Ugh.
