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My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness
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RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness
(February 14, 2017 at 7:47 pm)emjay Wrote: Can you give an example of a multi-faceted truth and the contexts you mean that see different facets of it (and nothing including statues  Wink)? I was just about to say, all I really need is a concrete example but then I realised I'd probably get the statue  Big Grin But analogy is often, in my opinion, the best form of explanation.
QM particles are an example that I've given already. I'd also say the Big Bang singularity could be an example-- at the moment of the Big Bang, there was a timeless, volumeless, shapeless. . . what? Scientists talk about all the matter in the universe crammed into a singularity, but that's just word salad. Really, there was the formative principle of the Universe, but nothing in or of the Universe, in that moment.

The travel of photons is another. From the "perspective" of a photon, no time passes, which means that a photon in that sense is a kind of bringing-together of two atoms together, no less than a shared electron would. From our perspective, a photon is a messenger from the past moving at the speed of light; not only that, it's a superposition of perhaps limitless possibilities. Consider a double slit experiment, and then ask how many atmospheres, dusts cloud, and so on that photon may have passed through, which confound its superposition on "arrival" on Earth.

Consider mind. Whatever anyone wants to say about brains or about evolution, mind-as-experienced and brain-as-observed are very clearly different. I experience redness; you, at best, can say that you know that when location "x" in my brain lights up, I'm experiencing redness. An idea is BOTH a subjective experience and a brain process, and in a sense its not completely either, much as with photons, until you decide which way you want to look at it.
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My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by Won2blv - February 12, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by Aegon - February 12, 2017 at 11:13 pm
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by emjay - February 13, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by emjay - February 13, 2017 at 12:13 pm
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by bennyboy - February 14, 2017 at 9:38 pm
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by emjay - February 14, 2017 at 11:08 pm
My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by KUSA - February 14, 2017 at 9:32 pm
RE: My thoughts on the Hard problem of consciousness - by emjay - February 15, 2017 at 12:24 am

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