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Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis
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RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis
(February 16, 2017 at 6:21 pm)bennyboy Wrote:
(February 16, 2017 at 5:38 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Why don't we try something.  Why don't -you- try to answer that question from within a material monist framework?  Let's see if that helps..because I'm tired of answering it over and over only to be asked again.  Same with the opener, I'm tired of giving you possible material monist distals.  Can you think of any?

What you are asking me to do is difficult, since one of my reasons for not being a materialist is the hard problem of consciousness.
It shouldn't be difficult, I'm not asking you to agree that anything -is- a distal cause of qualia, only asking you to identify candidates -as- a distal cause in a material monist framework.  Your view is irrelevant to the question you asked me to answer.

Laying aside brain itself as a proximal cause, as you asked me to do, does the process which led to that brain qualify as distal, how about the chemistry that supports that process, how about the physics beneath that?  In the vast amount of explanatory space between the brain and quantum mechanics...all of it a material monist explanation..is there -anything- that strikes you as a candidate to be a distal cause?

If not...then just what are you asking for, exactly? In a material monist framework..the distal cause...or more accurately -causes- of qualia are less "mysterious" and more numerous than the proximate one.
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Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by Won2blv - February 13, 2017 at 11:04 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by Won2blv - February 14, 2017 at 12:04 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 14, 2017 at 2:02 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 14, 2017 at 8:00 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 14, 2017 at 12:34 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by Won2blv - February 15, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 15, 2017 at 2:37 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 15, 2017 at 11:14 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 15, 2017 at 11:42 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 15, 2017 at 11:02 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 16, 2017 at 11:22 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 16, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 16, 2017 at 9:33 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 16, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by The Grand Nudger - February 16, 2017 at 6:36 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by DLJ - February 17, 2017 at 9:21 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 17, 2017 at 8:26 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 18, 2017 at 10:29 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 18, 2017 at 11:54 am
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by Won2blv - February 18, 2017 at 12:57 pm
RE: Trying to simplify my Consciousness hypothesis - by emjay - February 18, 2017 at 1:37 pm

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