RE: Global Warming denial an article of religious faith | BBC
July 6, 2011 at 9:13 am
(This post was last modified: July 6, 2011 at 10:05 am by The Grand Nudger.)
Welsh, that animals have an affect upon their surroundings is hardly an issue that cannot be reproduced. The core of the ACC argument, is that the many and varied actions of all of us on a local scale add up to a global effect. The severity of this effect, and predictions as to where it will lead and the amount of time it will take to get there are definitely open to interpretation. It's not an all or nothing issue.
Some well documented examples of human induced climate change that just immediately spring to mind, would be Londons famous fog, the dust bowl here in the states, Big sugars draining of the glades and the subsequent change in flora, fauna, and yes, even rainfall in S FL. We have a very long history of altering our environment, sometimes to our benefit sometimes to our detriment. You don't have to remain in disbelief about these things, they actually happened. Similarly you don't have to subscribe to any particular modelers predictions of a climate-apocalypse to accept the proposition that all of the things we do in our local environments add up to a significant change in our global environment. The world is a very different place now than it was before we found out that we could better our lot by putting the whole thing under our heels. Some areas have been left completely devoid of life, others transformed from barren wastes to lush oasis. This kind of terrestrial tampering has had an effect on the climate. With these examples in mind, it would be difficult for one to accept that releasing things directly into the atmosphere on a global scale would have absolutely no effect, or that the earth has a limitless capacity to correct itself.
An interesting WIKI link that touches on some of the effects that altering an ecosystem had on the quality of life for those immediately surrounding it. As a side note, I'm completely with you regarding my level of confidence on modelers claims to effectively foretell the future, I'm just hoping there isn't a Cassandra among them, is all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everglades
I grew up in and around the glades, the effects of human tampering in this regard were everywhere around us, still there were those who argued that it was just a natural cycle of this or that. Turns out, it wasn't. All we did here btw was drain a swamp so we could grow more sugar, at least that's all we thought we did. It's been vastly more expensive to reverse the effect than it was to move the water in the first place. This is the kind of thing that some people fear may occur on a global scale. I think you and I could both agree that a situation like that of the glades, but extended to a global scale, is to be avoided if at all possible.
Some well documented examples of human induced climate change that just immediately spring to mind, would be Londons famous fog, the dust bowl here in the states, Big sugars draining of the glades and the subsequent change in flora, fauna, and yes, even rainfall in S FL. We have a very long history of altering our environment, sometimes to our benefit sometimes to our detriment. You don't have to remain in disbelief about these things, they actually happened. Similarly you don't have to subscribe to any particular modelers predictions of a climate-apocalypse to accept the proposition that all of the things we do in our local environments add up to a significant change in our global environment. The world is a very different place now than it was before we found out that we could better our lot by putting the whole thing under our heels. Some areas have been left completely devoid of life, others transformed from barren wastes to lush oasis. This kind of terrestrial tampering has had an effect on the climate. With these examples in mind, it would be difficult for one to accept that releasing things directly into the atmosphere on a global scale would have absolutely no effect, or that the earth has a limitless capacity to correct itself.
An interesting WIKI link that touches on some of the effects that altering an ecosystem had on the quality of life for those immediately surrounding it. As a side note, I'm completely with you regarding my level of confidence on modelers claims to effectively foretell the future, I'm just hoping there isn't a Cassandra among them, is all.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Everglades
I grew up in and around the glades, the effects of human tampering in this regard were everywhere around us, still there were those who argued that it was just a natural cycle of this or that. Turns out, it wasn't. All we did here btw was drain a swamp so we could grow more sugar, at least that's all we thought we did. It's been vastly more expensive to reverse the effect than it was to move the water in the first place. This is the kind of thing that some people fear may occur on a global scale. I think you and I could both agree that a situation like that of the glades, but extended to a global scale, is to be avoided if at all possible.
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