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Now and before.
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RE: Now and before.
(March 12, 2017 at 11:29 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: This a very serious post. I don't intend to joke in it; didn't I also use double meanings.
Let's begin:

Having a start, we must have a point before that start. Let's imagine the two points: 

1-Start
2-Pre start

If taken with the same context, with the same meaning dictionary, the pre start, or 2, can always be the start within a different universe, resulting in an infinite vacuum.

But an instance of logic would suggest, that once we cross the "start" borders backwardly, the context of now will have no meaning; it will cease to exist.

The start point was suggested to be named "The Big Bang" in our universe, nobody knows anything about point 2; or "Pre start". If meanings can't even exist in that void; void itself lost its meaning before point 1; how does point 2 can even exist ?

We will never solve it. We will forever be locked tight in our context of "now"; the context that began with point 1.
Only God is the way out of this dogma of lost meaning.

What means what, when what itself loses the colors that makes it a what; when would not work since light itself is not; darkness is also not; nothing is; but everything is not.

Before point 1; nothing would mean. Context doesn't exist. How could particles be?

The laws of physics breaks down at this point, so the explanation will be beyond us. We didn't evolve with this experience. 
It is not true to say that there was nothing and then something. The term "nothing" postulates space, since all terms relating to a reality assume spacial coordinates. I can't claim to know the true explanation of the universe, but based on what is accepted here, the universe wasn't preceded by anything. 
To say God is the explanation of why there is something rather than nothing is to assume a specific relationship between existence, causality, and nothing. This is to assume a lot. 
God is actually a rather terrible explanation for the origins of the big bang, space, and time, as shown by the the principle of ignorance. An explanation such as a mind will have cognitive features, which means that a predictable pattern should be able to be deduced from such an event. This would be part of a teleological based event. However, the big bang lacks these predictable cognitive features, it is lacked in its initial conditions. You cannot overcome the random nature of this event. Physical theory breaks down at the big bang singularity. 
Also, this concept of God has ontological inconsistencies.
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Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 12, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 12, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by vorlon13 - March 12, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 12, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 13, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2017 at 4:02 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 13, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 5:41 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 4:58 am
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 13, 2017 at 6:23 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 14, 2017 at 1:08 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 14, 2017 at 11:43 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 15, 2017 at 12:14 am
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RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 15, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 15, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 15, 2017 at 6:58 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 14, 2017 at 8:13 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 14, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 13, 2017 at 5:09 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 13, 2017 at 10:05 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Now and before. - by brewer - March 12, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 3:39 pm
Now and before. - by KUSA - March 12, 2017 at 5:20 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 12, 2017 at 6:42 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 6:48 pm
RE: Now and before. - by SuperSentient - March 12, 2017 at 7:49 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2017 at 9:35 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Angrboda - March 13, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 13, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 12, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 14, 2017 at 8:31 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 9:05 am
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 14, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Now and before. - by masterofpuppets - March 14, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Now and before. - by masterofpuppets - March 15, 2017 at 12:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 15, 2017 at 2:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 6:16 am
RE: Now and before. - by TubbyTubby - March 15, 2017 at 6:44 am
Now and before. - by KUSA - March 15, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Now and before. - by KUSA - March 15, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Simon Moon - March 15, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Simon Moon - March 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm

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