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Now and before.
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RE: Now and before.
(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: It is true, l've no reason to lie.

I did not say that you were lying.

You are simply wrong.

(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: You say it's evidence based and immediately turn around and through doubt into your statement, that doesn't ring of confidence.

It's not doubt, Godschild. It's a simple observation. Even if the Big Bang theory is eventually shown to be incorrect, it is still evidence-based.

Belief in gods is not.

(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: Newton is considered one of the most brilliant men to live, you and I are a long ways from thinking in his realm.

...which changes precisely nothing about the fact that we accept those things that he could support with evidence and reject those which he could not.

(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: How can you have evidence of an unseen thing

If someone standing beside me is suddenly shot, I don't have to find the shooter to know that there is a gun involved.

(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: if you apply your logic to dark matter you have to extend it to God.

No, Godschild. Dark matter has evidence supporting it. Gods do not.

(March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am)Godschild Wrote: I have never claimed l can give an atheist the evidence he/she requires to prove God, the Bible tells us about evidence {which l accept) but non-believers refuse to accept.

Because the Bible is not evidence. Point blank, period. There is and can be no arguing on this point.

If you believe the claims contained within the Bible, then that is fine. But the Bible is not evidence. It does not contain any information which logically supports the conclusion of "a god exists", any more than The Last Unicorn proves the existence of King Haggard. At best, its stories are unverified; more commonly, they are demonstrably fiction. In neither case is it evidence.

You are free to believe whatever you like. If adopting an irrational belief makes you happy, then more power to you.

But when you start claiming to have actual evidence, you're going to have to start presenting some.
"Owl," said Rabbit shortly, "you and I have brains. The others have fluff. If there is any thinking to be done in this Forest - and when I say thinking I mean thinking - you and I must do it."
  - A. A. Milne, The House at Pooh Corner
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Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 12, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by Gawdzilla Sama - March 12, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by vorlon13 - March 12, 2017 at 11:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 12, 2017 at 3:01 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 3:21 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 12, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 11:57 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 12:15 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 13, 2017 at 1:03 am
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 13, 2017 at 4:02 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 13, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 4:36 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 5:41 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 13, 2017 at 4:58 am
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 13, 2017 at 6:23 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 12:02 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 14, 2017 at 1:08 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 11:05 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 14, 2017 at 11:43 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 15, 2017 at 12:14 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 15, 2017 at 12:47 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 15, 2017 at 1:33 am
RE: Now and before. - by Nonpareil - March 15, 2017 at 1:56 am
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 15, 2017 at 6:58 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 14, 2017 at 8:13 am
RE: Now and before. - by Godschild - March 14, 2017 at 11:50 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 12:01 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 14, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 13, 2017 at 5:09 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 13, 2017 at 10:05 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 10:25 am
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 12:27 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 12:43 pm
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2017 at 1:03 pm
RE: Now and before. - by pocaracas - March 12, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 1:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 1:17 pm
RE: Now and before. - by brewer - March 12, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 12, 2017 at 3:39 pm
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RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 12, 2017 at 6:48 pm
RE: Now and before. - by SuperSentient - March 12, 2017 at 7:49 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 13, 2017 at 7:56 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 9:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 10:44 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 10:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 11:43 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 11:44 am
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 1:30 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 1:37 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 3:07 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 3:23 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 3:36 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Harry Nevis - March 15, 2017 at 3:38 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 4:08 pm
RE: Now and before. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - March 12, 2017 at 9:35 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Angrboda - March 13, 2017 at 10:36 am
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 13, 2017 at 12:58 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 12, 2017 at 10:31 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 13, 2017 at 4:00 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Cyberman - March 14, 2017 at 8:31 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 9:05 am
RE: Now and before. - by Minimalist - March 14, 2017 at 12:30 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 14, 2017 at 12:40 pm
RE: Now and before. - by masterofpuppets - March 14, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Now and before. - by masterofpuppets - March 15, 2017 at 12:29 am
RE: Now and before. - by WinterHold - March 15, 2017 at 2:55 am
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 6:16 am
RE: Now and before. - by TubbyTubby - March 15, 2017 at 6:44 am
Now and before. - by KUSA - March 15, 2017 at 1:05 pm
Now and before. - by KUSA - March 15, 2017 at 1:53 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 2:15 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Simon Moon - March 15, 2017 at 2:31 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 3:03 pm
RE: Now and before. - by PETE_ROSE - March 15, 2017 at 2:42 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Brian37 - March 15, 2017 at 2:45 pm
RE: Now and before. - by Simon Moon - March 15, 2017 at 3:33 pm

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