RE: Atheists, what are the most convincing theist arguments you heard of?
March 14, 2017 at 9:32 am
(March 14, 2017 at 9:12 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:(March 14, 2017 at 4:07 am)Alex K Wrote: The Kalam argument is nonsensical.
I understand the sentiment because it is a poorly constructed version of the Prime Mover, the First Way of Thomas Aquinas. As such it appears to beg the question, by stating a condition for beings (coming into being) then seems to make an exception for a being with the unique feature of not having come into being. The missing premise that clarifies the demonstration is the continuum of existence from actual being to potential being.
Aquinas didn't know shit about modern science, PERIOD. I really do get tired of shit like this. Every religion in the world has members whom attempt to point to their "discoveries". Our species evolved to be curious, we can see curiosity in our primate cousins and even our pets such as cats and dogs. Ask a Muslim they will claim science points to their religion. Ask a Jew they will claim science points to their religion. Ask a Sikh or Hindu, or Buddhist, they too will claim science points to their religion. Nope sorry, science points to our species mentally making bad guesses which end up becoming religions and god claims.
Our species was evolving long before any written language. Evolution was going on long before humans. Our planet is 4 billion years old, our universe is 13.8 billion years old. It is absurd to think humans are special to this planet much less the universe. God is in your head, nowhere else.
