What is logic?

[Little Rik]

I knew well from the very beginning that you were a nut case   but now you go even further in order to show your atheists mates that you are on top.  
You surely are on top but on top of the mental sewer.  


By giving so much importance to the nerves that connect the pineal gland with all the rest you show that
you live in a fantasy world.
The pineal gland is something physical but the consciousness that lie inside the gland is something abstract.

This is nothing but religious dogma.  As noted throughout this thread, you have no evidence that the pineal gland has anything to do with consciousness.  That's just pseudoscientific bullshit.  There aren't enough nerves innervating the pineal gland to support the input and output of information necessary to support control of the body and other nervous functions.  The nerves in the pineal gland flow one direction: from the brain to the gland.  That's not sufficient to support all the things that the brain does for consciousness.  That's literally zero nerves for that function.  So once again you've been shown biologically wrong with your dogma about the pineal gland.  There aren't enough nerves going to the pineal gland and the ones that do are the wrong kind.  Your idea is simply a miserable failure when it comes to the supposed location of consciousness.

1) The fact that the consciousness is something abstract has nothing to do with religions.
Like most atheists you are obsessed with religions.
Every time you don't agree with something you blame on religions.
This is being dicks.    

2) There is enough LOGIC to draw conclusions that the pineal gland is the seat of consciousness.
It is located at the very top of the spinal cord and it is located right in the middle of the brain.
All other glands are lower and preside more physical functions.
But the most important evidence is that by practicing yoga meditation you feel where the consciousness
lie and that place is right in the middle of the brain where the pineal gland is.

3) All the bullshit about the nerves show how stupid you are.
You talk and talk about nerves connections and the brain as if the brain would have any say in how the consciousness works.
The brain is something physical yog while the consciousness is not.
Consciousness is the boss not the other way around so it is totally irrelevant what the brain can or can not do or the connections to or from.
When you enter your car you are not connected with wiring to the car and yet you are able to tell the car
what to do or where to go.
Nerves are there, connections are there but to understand how the system works you only have to realize that the consciousness is the one who direct the show not the brain.
The brain is like a computer that got so many information but the one who decide what to do or how to use these information is not the computer.
It is you and so the one who decide what to do in a human is the consciousness not the brain.  

We can not see, smell or touch the consciousness but it exist.
I did show you that the consciousness may get affected when the pineal gland get calcified.

You showed nothing of the sort.  Alzheimer's disease affects the whole brain.  Showing that one part of the brain is affected by Alzheimer's gets you nothing.  It's a correlation, nothing more.

FOOL.  

You say that you believe in science but when this science show that you are wrong you don't believe in science anymore.
I did show you a scientific study about the calcification of the pineal gland and how it affect the person
and yet this scientific study is not science to you.
You got a mental problem yog.
Go and see a psychologist before the problem get out of control.  

Corpora arenacea (or brain sand or acervuli[1][2] or corpus arenaceum[3]) are calcified structures in the pineal gland and other areas of the brain such as the choroid plexus. Older organisms have numerous corpora arenacea, whose function, if any, is unknown. Concentrations of "brain sand" increase with age, so the pineal gland becomes increasingly visible on X-rays over time, usually by the third or fourth decade. They are sometimes used as anatomical landmarks in radiological examinations.[4]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corpora_arenacea

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Increasing calcification is a product of age.  Showing that some patients affected with calcification have a disease shows that the disease affects the pineal gland.  That's all.  It doesn't show that the pineal gland calcification is the cause of the behavioral deterioration.

Idiot.  

It is true that with the old age the body goes to the dogs so to speak but it is also true that we are able to fight back.
Take the salmon fish.
This "guy" goes against the flow of the river up and up and up until he reach the top.
Some people have the same stamina.
They fight against the lethargy and keep their body-mind fit as long as possible while most people just let go and become victim of their own apathy.
Being inside a calcified gland the consciousness is less and less able to perform to his best so it is obvious that a calcify pineal gland is the cause of many problems.  

As soon as I did you come down with all the bullshit about the nerves.
This clearly show that you didn't get it.

I came down with all these facts about the nerves because it clearly demonstrated that you were talking bullshit.  And you still are.

Wrong again yog.  
The nerves whichever they are they still are connections.
They have no saying in what the consciousness decide to do.
They are like the wiring in your car.
They have no saying in deciding how the vehicle should or shouldn't go so by giving so much importance to the nerves you clearly show that you are in the fairy land.

Humans beings are not only made of flesh and your nerves.

Unsupported assertion.

Forgot the consciousness yog?
That is not flesh or nerve.  

Consciousness is much much more important than the flesh and consciousness doesn't necessary get affected only by the body-brain.

Unsupported assertion.

Fully supported my dear.
Consciousness get also affected by bad news and bad news are not necessary physical news.
Suppose a dear person near to you pass away.
Wouldn't you be affected by it?  

It also get affected by our attitude.
That is why a positive attitude keep the consciousness alive and well while a negative one does the opposite.

Unsupported assertion.

Wrong again (again and again)
Even this point is fully supported yog.

Everything in this universe move so there can not be a place where things stay the same.
Movement can go in both direction.
Up or down.
In the positive or the negative.

Therefore the calcification of the pineal gland get affected by both the physical aspect and the mental one.

As usual, you claim more than you know.  Unsupported assertion.

Fail again yog.  

Science slowly slowly is getting there.
There was a time where the atom was the smallest thing but later on they discovered that protons, neutrons and electrons are even smallest but the study goes on and more information come to light all the time.
This universe is balanced by the positive and the negative in all aspect of life and these tiny particles
that compose the universe are therefore positive or negative.
You may or may not see these tiny form of existence but they are there for sure or this universe wouldn't exist so by our own attitude we attract these positive or negative form of life that eventually will make us sick or happy and healty.

Yoga is all about to make sure that the consciousness is activated all the time and live in an healthy place called pineal gland.

More religious dogma that is without a scrap of evidence.  Bare assertions of "how things are" don't count for shit.  Anybody can make a bunch of assertions.

Wrong again yog.  
For the last seven thousand years smart people experienced bliss and that even before religions existed
so religions have nothing to do with bliss or consciousness.

It is all so so simple yog but you being a total fool throw rubbish in the clear water turning everything muddy in your mind of course not in mine.

Yes, it's all so simple.  Your claims about the role of the pineal gland in induced experiences and NDEs are rubbish.  Your other claims about the pineal gland's role in consciousness are nothing but religious dogma.  You just spout bullshit, bare assertions, and trash talk.

The pineal gland does not experience an NDE.
It is the consciousness when it leave or separate from the pineal gland that experience an NDE.
This is confirmed by thousand of people who had an NDE and NDEs are real because a dead brain could not possibly experience an NDE.