The false self and our knowledge of it's deception proves God.

[Brian37]

Talk about missing the point.

No, I am not saying you elevated Satan to a god status. I AM saying the character name is stolen from prior traditions. What the newer users view it at does not change the fact it was used by prior people.

Satan is technically a word, not a name. And once again, no one here is claiming that the word satan is new or was created by Satanists. Who are you even arguing with about this? It sure isn't me.

Again it is just as stupid for Buddhists to claim their religion has nothing to do with deities or superstition. Even TODAY you can find BUDDHISTS with superstitions like Nirvana and still believe in spirits. 

What the fuck are you even talking about Buddhism for?

You trying to cop out to a "philosophy" is no different. It is incorporating old motifs, character names and changing the interpretation.

Satanism is a philosophy. A religion requires belief in a supernatural deity. Satanists do not belief in supernatural deities. What the fuck are you even talking about?

It works the same way with any product one might buy. Coke puts out a cherry soda, and not to be outdone Pepsi looks at that and says "hey we need to get in on that" and they put out a new cherry flavor soda, give it a different color can and slightly different flavor, but none of that changes that the roots of soda were around long before either company. 

You are STILL taking old ideas and attempting to make them less dogmatic. 

You are still marketing a club and still using a word that has a far longer past than your new interpretation.

You are still making the mistake of thinking that Satanism is somehow in competition with religion. It is not. No one is "marketing a club." what are you talking about? Are we having the same conversation? And once again, no one here disagrees that the word satan was first seen in the Torah. Who are you arguing with this about?

We can go back and forth on this for the rest of the day if you like, but so far the only thing you've displayed is that you don't understand what Satanism is and that you seem to have no interest in understanding what it is.

Not sure how many times you want to repeat yourself here, but I'm getting sick of participating in this pointless back and forth, so unless you offer something new in your next post, I doubt I'll be replying.

I'm still open to continuing a discussion on Satanism via private message, but like I said I have a creeping suspicion, for whatever reason, that you have no interest in this type of open dialogue and would rather continue your pointless, endless rant about how satan isn't a new word.

"Its not a religion it is a philosophy"

Yea and that is also not the first time I have heard that and you are also not the first or only label to argue that.

It is still incorporating prior words, characters, motifs, demonizing the parts of the past you don't like while trying to remove the superstition and dogmatism. 

Look, it boils down the same way for all upstart clubs. 

"I don't like the old ways"

The early Hebrews got tired of the old Canaanite polytheism, so they took the Yahweh name and adapted it. 

The Rasta religion evolved the same way. It stems from prior African Christian/Jewish ideas.

You don't realize that even Jews who call themselves "secular Jews" do the same thing. They are Jews who go through the motions but dont believe in the literal God.

You ask Buddhists and they also dodge their superstitious past and will ALSO argue that it is a "philosophy".

Ideas never get pulled out of someone's ass magically. People like to say Thomas Edison is an "inventor" but the reality is, someone educated him, and he had to look around him to draw ideas. The only thing he really did was beat everyone else to the patent office. 

Newer clubs sell the same way older clubs do, they dont pop out of a vacuum. They all still draw on old ideas and names and motifs, all designed to say "I am different".

I am not arguing that you are a bad person, but I am arguing your label drew ideas from the past. I am arguing that "Satan" is still a word older than how you personally chose to view it now.

God vs Satan is much older than your "Satanism'. I have seen plenty prior than you for decades argue that Satan really was not the bad guy people make him out to be. Even before you I have argued, I don't care. Just like I don't care that some Buddhist want to ignore their superstitious past. 

You are STILL  taking and old word and incorporating it to create a new label.