RE: Article about clergy who became atheists
April 22, 2017 at 10:49 am
(This post was last modified: April 22, 2017 at 11:02 am by Mystic.)
(April 21, 2017 at 1:02 am)Cecelia Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 1:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If the faith in God could not die, it would not be virtue to keep it.
It is not a virtue to have faith in god, when this God threatens punishment for disbelief and promises reward for belief. It's not a virtue when intolerance is often--if not always--attached. Faith in God is not virtuous. It's self serving. It's the opposite of virtuous.
Wanting paradise is a virtue since it's a place of closeness to God. Also, where do you get the notion that taking care of yourself is wrong? Indeed doing things to take of yourself is most important before one can try to wish well for another person's well-being. You have to have peace of mind to spread peace of mind to others.
And fearing hell is a virtue since it's a place of distance to God.
And indeed the great hope should be love for God and love for God, and greatest fear should be to have hate towards God and hate from God.
May God guide us in the ways that lead to the balanced love we are meant to have, where our love is not mixed with dark intentions but is sincerely for the sake of God. Amen.
(April 19, 2017 at 6:47 pm)chimp3 Wrote:(April 19, 2017 at 1:01 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: If the faith in God could not die, it would not be virtue to keep it.
If a lack of belief in a god could not die, it would not be reasonable to keep it.
True, I would say God is really the most volatile belief in that regard. First, being a God means he ought to be worshiped. Which means we ought to know him. And not only that, but we ought to know him intimately and there has to be paths that lead to greater knowledge of him. And that needs a guide, a light that shows the way to glorify him accurately. And to know who are the people holding on to this guide, and to be with them, would need proof and signs from God that decisively prove who that guide is and which guides he is associated with to know the teachings of God and come to a proper avenue of God teaching us knowledge.
If all this was not found or his guidance was imperfect in some way, all that would come crumbling down.
So faith in God in his Messengers and his guides is the most falsifiable thing, one contradiction in the book that is coupled with them and everything falls.
And as we can easily misinterpret the religion and book without pure guides to show us the proper interpretation and teach us the ways of ascending in interpretation and knowledge of the book, the whole system would fall without true guides from God.
It's the most volatile falsifiable thing and it is a deep trial we all are in.
Yet the light is the most manifest thing we know, we know it better than ourselves, those who turn away from it's reminder do so because they wish to follow their caprice which is dark form of love that blinds people to the truth.