(April 22, 2017 at 11:56 am)Jörmungandr Wrote:(April 22, 2017 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: You must be a total nutcase Yog. not to know the difference between a masturbation and
making love.
By using Ketamine you force the pineal gland to do things against his wishes while an NDE is something natural in which God teach you something.
A trip caused by ketamine teach you absolutely nothing.
All you experience are hallucinations.
Nothing to do with God teaching.
In a NDE you are dead.
In a ketamine trip you are still alive.
By forcing the consciousness to act in a unnatural way a lot of negative things can happen.
Seeing that the original statement that spawned this is the following:
(April 21, 2017 at 4:27 am)Lucanus Wrote: This statement is demonstrably false. People who take hallucinogenic drugs (such as LSD or Ketamin) very often report clear sharp and vivid experiences... But those are the experiences of a malfunctioning brain!
All of the above bullshit reply is beside the point. The question was whether a malfunctioning brain can "build up a clear, sharp and vivid experience," and the evidence from this person's experience with ketamine is a distinct, "yes, it can." So despite all your emojis and all your bullshit about the pineal gland, you are still wrong.
(April 22, 2017 at 9:52 am)Little Rik Wrote: Karl Jansen published papers on his discovery of the similarities between ketamine's
The guy say........SIMILARITY yog.
Do you know what this word means Yog?
You don't Yog and you don't because you are a nutcase that try to give your own interpretation in order to make a point.
So no Yog, you fail once again.
Trying to distract from the point that you were wrong with more irrelevant bullshit. Yet another fail. The NDE experiencer said that the experience of an NDE was "exactly like" the experience on ketamine. That's not my interpretation, those are his words. What Dr. Jansen is doing is irrelevant to what this NDEer and ketamine user experienced.
For Christ'sake Yog.
You are a lot more demented than I previously though.
The guy that suppose to have an NDE in reality did not have any NDE.
He just faint away overtaken by smoke and had an hallucination.
That's all.
Where is the evidence that he really died?
Nobody witness his death.
He didn't have any experience with God which would go in line with all other NDEs experiences.
Nothing of that kind and yet you and other total idiots jump on the wagon of other idiots that
don't even bother to put all pieces together and raise the flag of victory.
Grow up Yog because at the moment you only talk crap.