RE: Our theists of all labels please answer....
April 23, 2017 at 11:43 am
(This post was last modified: April 23, 2017 at 11:47 am by Brian37.)
(April 23, 2017 at 11:26 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:(April 23, 2017 at 11:12 am)Brian37 Wrote: It isn't that simple. I get your position makes sense TO YOU, but how does that make it anything more than you like it? Your position doesn't make sense to others otherwise they would hold the same position you do.
"It makes sense to me" is not objective, everyone claims that.
Again, WHY do you feel the need to hold your position? It is a fair question and one again, this thread is aimed at anyone who has a religion of any religion.
Why would my beliefs be based on "need" or need to be objective? Beliefs are subjective, and the reason I gave is for mine alone.
I agree beliefs are subjective, which makes my questions far more important. Yes and again your reasons are your reasons alone, I agree with that too.
We are all entitled to believe what we want, that is not the purpose of this thread. This isn't a human rights issue, or a legal issue. It is a challenge to the reader to think and simply not hide behind answers like the one you just gave, one I observe from followers of every religion.
"I have my reasons" yes, and again, so what. Are they credible reasons that can be independently tested or falsified outside your own personal bias your own subjective point of view? We are all entitled to our own beliefs, but nobody is entitled to their own set of facts.
Creationists have their reasons for denying evolution. But evolution is fact regardless of what individual reason they reject that fact. They feel the need to cling to old bad claims because the thought of being wrong frightens them.
Repeated neutral peer reviewed experimentation is the best filter humans have that acts as a filter to "personal reasons". You can have your reasons sure, but do you really have good reasons outside liking your subjective position, and you , not me said that beliefs are subjective, and I agree.
So when you have competing claims, what determines who got it right?