(April 24, 2017 at 2:37 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(April 24, 2017 at 2:24 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Ok... as people have done.
Ok... I agree, a science lab is a good place to find out certain facts. And I don't think that with any facts (scientific or not), you are free to make up for yourself.
This would include the many claims in your post.
I think your methodology is flawed, but if you would like to lay out your principles of reasoning here, then we can examine them neutrally and unbiased like, and see where that leads us.
No, a science lab is the only place to determine facts.
Do not confuse history or news or metaphor as having the same qualities. That is not the same category nor should it be treated the same.
WHEN you want to find out the effects of gravity on an object, that is done through neutral experiment and neutral peer review.
"The New England Patriots won the Super Bowl" while a factual observation, is not an attempt to say "Since they won that makes Apollo the one real god".
"Donald Trump became president" also while provable fact, is not trying to prove Allah to be the one true God.
Historians report facts, like a reporter.
News reporters also SHOULD , not that they always do, report facts, not pander to what people like to hear.
Anthropologists are also reporters, but not to sell you something, but to say, "These are our neutral observations as to what we recorded as to how this society lived and what they believed", but again, that is also not a sales pitch.
I like Star Wars because the underdog beats the bully. Yea, but again, also not a scientific fact, but a metaphor reflection or human reaction to a threat, done in fictional form.
If you are attempting to point to a religious club, you are not merely reporting, you are selling and a sales pitch is an apology, not neutral reporting.
Is your first statement a fact?
Also your comment about the factual observation about the superbowl seems to contradict your first statement (or was the winner of the superbowl determined in a science lab?)
I'm suspecting more and more, that you are not very neutral in this subject!
But that all facts are only found in a science lab is self refuting, but we can continue or move on to another principle if you like.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther