(April 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(April 24, 2017 at 3:33 pm)Brian37 Wrote: A science lab is the only place you determine scientific fact, you cannot mix that with religion. PERIOD
You can report religious history, but only as NEUTRAL, you cannot mix it with science.
You are trying to treat the word "FACT" as meaning the same and equal in all contexts.
I am talking about HOW NEUTRAL SCIENCE WORKS.
A theologian may TRY to mix religion with science, but that is not OBJECTIVE, once you start trying to do that you are an apologist, selling something, you are no longer scientifically NEUTRAL.
Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy. Because that is what it appears you are doing.
Can you clarify what you meaning by selling something? How would this relate to a scientist trying to sell me on climate change (or as I like to call it... fine tuning of the atmosphere)? Or how about your trying to sell me this idea now... are you neutral? There may be some things on which I agree, but this wording seems awkward.
Also... wrong again, on what you imagine I am trying to do. I should start a counter or something. But just a tip... if you let me speak for myself, then I can't claim a straw man.
"Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy= The Hindu creator God Brahama"
"Are you familiar with the genetic falacy= Allah"
"Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy= Buddha"
"Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy=Yahweh"
"Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy=Apollo"
"Are you familiar with the genetic fallacy= Yoda"
If you are going to point out this "genetic fallacy" to be NEUTRAL you would have to be willing to plug all other claims into that same claim. If you are not willing to do that you are simply mentally masturbating trying to use sciencey sounding words to eventually point right back to your own bias position.
You are speaking for yourself, but you are not speaking neutrally for yourself. Which is why I challenged you in the OP with that question which you refuse to ask YOURSELF.