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Paul's 500 witnesses.
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses.
(May 9, 2017 at 10:41 am)alpha male Wrote:
(May 9, 2017 at 7:57 am)Jehanne Wrote: "Does she love me, does she not".  I have deceived and even lied to myself on many occasions on that one, only to be disappointed when the latter truth became self-evident, but in each and every case, the truth became known!!  I agree with Hume that "no miracles now implies no miracles then".

Miracles are necessarily rare.

No, claims of "miracles" are rampant worldwide, those claims are hardly rare.

Not knowing the real scientific complexities and conditions as to why an event happens is what that ignorant word is used for. It is a place card for human ignorance, it is not an explanation of anything. 

50 to 60 millions worldwide on average DIE per year. Mostly from old age, but we die from everything, in the womb, stillborn, childhood disease, famine, crime, in war, natural disaster but adults the same.

If a passenger Jet with 300 people on board crashes and 1 person survives, 299 die you call it a "miracle". 

If another passenger Jet with 300 people 299 survive and only 1 dies, you also call that a "miracle".

When does it cease to be a "miracle"? When 150 die and 150 survive? 

Exactly what is the correct magical ratio?

It can't be that a plane crashes for non magical reasons? It cant be that where you sit matters? It cant be mechanical issues are why? It cant be weather conditions? It cant be angle of impact? I cant be pilot skill or pilot error?

"Poof" is your explanation to why people survive?

No, sorry, there are quite mundane natural reasons as to why people seemingly survive something. 

"Miracle" is a superstitious gap filling word. It does not explain reality. It is merely an argument from emotion.

It is a word born from ignorance, conformation bias, a word parents sell youth worldwide based on the religions of their parents. It is an emotional reaction to stress, or an emotional reaction to "pretty", like stupidly calling child birth a "miracle" ignoring that after birth matters and not all children in the world have a good life. There is no "miracle" to birth, there is sex and the sperm and egg meeting, and that also happens millions of times per day worldwide.

It is selection bias and sample rate error.
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Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2017 at 11:18 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2017 at 11:28 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2017 at 11:36 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Anomalocaris - April 30, 2017 at 7:29 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2017 at 7:50 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Anomalocaris - May 1, 2017 at 10:21 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2017 at 12:05 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Anomalocaris - May 1, 2017 at 8:36 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by The Valkyrie - May 8, 2017 at 12:07 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by chimp3 - April 30, 2017 at 11:29 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - April 30, 2017 at 12:03 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Drich - April 30, 2017 at 12:11 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - April 30, 2017 at 12:53 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2017 at 1:32 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Drich - May 1, 2017 at 12:56 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by RoadRunner79 - May 1, 2017 at 1:39 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Drich - May 1, 2017 at 9:39 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 1, 2017 at 6:29 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by GUBU - May 1, 2017 at 8:41 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Anomalocaris - May 1, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by GUBU - May 2, 2017 at 4:55 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Harry Nevis - May 1, 2017 at 11:10 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 1, 2017 at 11:38 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - April 30, 2017 at 12:28 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - April 30, 2017 at 12:32 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by GUBU - April 30, 2017 at 12:34 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - April 30, 2017 at 3:57 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Gawdzilla Sama - April 30, 2017 at 6:47 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - April 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 1, 2017 at 9:30 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by GUBU - May 1, 2017 at 5:30 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Cecelia - May 1, 2017 at 5:38 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Amarok - April 30, 2017 at 7:26 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by downbeatplumb - May 1, 2017 at 6:04 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Gawdzilla Sama - May 1, 2017 at 9:04 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Mister Agenda - May 1, 2017 at 10:20 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Crossless1 - May 1, 2017 at 10:51 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 1, 2017 at 11:15 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Cecelia - May 1, 2017 at 5:18 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 1, 2017 at 9:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 1, 2017 at 9:58 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Rev. Rye - May 1, 2017 at 10:34 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 2, 2017 at 5:02 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 7, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 7, 2017 at 12:17 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Grandizer - May 7, 2017 at 2:23 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 7, 2017 at 2:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 7, 2017 at 4:02 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 7, 2017 at 5:27 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 7, 2017 at 8:34 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 8:37 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 8, 2017 at 8:51 am
Paul's 500 witnesses. - by KUSA - May 7, 2017 at 2:17 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 7, 2017 at 3:52 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Grandizer - May 7, 2017 at 3:56 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 5:57 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 10, 2017 at 6:06 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Foxaèr - May 10, 2017 at 6:07 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 6:27 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 7, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Grandizer - May 7, 2017 at 4:15 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2017 at 7:04 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 7, 2017 at 9:00 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 7, 2017 at 3:35 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Harry Nevis - May 8, 2017 at 2:04 pm
Paul's 500 witnesses. - by KUSA - May 7, 2017 at 5:09 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Grandizer - May 7, 2017 at 5:28 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 7, 2017 at 5:13 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 7, 2017 at 7:07 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 8, 2017 at 8:21 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 8, 2017 at 8:30 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 8, 2017 at 9:59 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 11:41 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 8, 2017 at 1:06 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 8, 2017 at 2:10 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 2:14 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Grandizer - May 8, 2017 at 12:14 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 8, 2017 at 2:58 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 8, 2017 at 3:19 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2017 at 9:18 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 7, 2017 at 9:34 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 7, 2017 at 11:15 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 8, 2017 at 1:31 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 8, 2017 at 2:04 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 8, 2017 at 7:22 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 8, 2017 at 2:21 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Simon Moon - May 8, 2017 at 3:18 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 9, 2017 at 6:27 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 9, 2017 at 6:33 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Simon Moon - May 9, 2017 at 3:51 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 10, 2017 at 1:25 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Harry Nevis - May 10, 2017 at 3:00 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 10, 2017 at 3:29 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 3:20 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Simon Moon - May 8, 2017 at 4:01 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 9, 2017 at 6:34 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 9, 2017 at 7:57 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 9, 2017 at 10:41 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 9, 2017 at 1:52 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by John V - May 9, 2017 at 3:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 9, 2017 at 6:39 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Harry Nevis - May 10, 2017 at 10:27 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by downbeatplumb - May 9, 2017 at 1:58 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 9, 2017 at 3:43 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Harry Nevis - May 9, 2017 at 9:19 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 8, 2017 at 6:23 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Cecelia - May 8, 2017 at 4:57 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 8, 2017 at 5:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Amarok - May 8, 2017 at 5:35 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 8, 2017 at 7:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 9, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 9, 2017 at 2:07 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Amarok - May 9, 2017 at 2:37 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 9, 2017 at 8:02 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Foxaèr - May 9, 2017 at 8:05 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by The Valkyrie - May 9, 2017 at 8:12 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 9, 2017 at 8:33 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by The Valkyrie - May 9, 2017 at 8:38 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Jehanne - May 9, 2017 at 9:20 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by The Valkyrie - May 9, 2017 at 9:25 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 9, 2017 at 10:12 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 9, 2017 at 10:36 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 10, 2017 at 1:02 am
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 10, 2017 at 3:41 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Brian37 - May 10, 2017 at 5:56 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 10, 2017 at 9:29 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by vorlon13 - May 10, 2017 at 6:13 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Foxaèr - May 10, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by The Valkyrie - May 10, 2017 at 6:24 pm
RE: Paul's 500 witnesses. - by Minimalist - May 14, 2017 at 4:39 pm

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