(May 9, 2017 at 6:27 am)alpha male Wrote: [quote='Simon Moon' pid='1550054' dateline='1494271105']
Here's the problems with this statement.
Allegedly there is this god that wants to have a relationship with me. Yet, he created me with a mind that is unable to accept claims without those claims meeting their burden of proof, which include being falsifiable.
Quote:If you desire to follow him, he can work with you on the belief.
Your claims create even more problems.
Here are just a few:
If the Bible is an accurate representation of Yahweh, even if he did exist, I'd want nothing to do with him.
He condones and creates rules for slavery, including: who I can own, that I can pass them down to my children as property, it's okay to beat them as long as they don't die in a couple of days, how to sell my daughter into sex slavery.
He rewards beliefs and not deeds.
Although he has the power to simply forgive humanity for original sin, he had to set up the most baroque situation, where he came to earth in physical form, in order to sacrifice himself, to himself, in order to create a loophole for his own rules.
And a further list of things only the gullible and credulous could believe.
Quote:It also seems that this god, in his attempt to communicate what is the 'most important message ever', would want to assure that it would be communicated in such a way as not to be opened to interpretation, translation errors, copy errors, contradiction, etc.
Quote:The Bible itself addresses this. There's value in the searching itself. In some cases it's also a matter of judgment. But again, God works with those who desire to follow him.
But the problem is, this search can and does lead to the situation where many searchers get it so wrong, that they will end up in hell. Do you believe that every person who claims to be a Christian, no matter how much their beliefs differ from yours, will get into heaven?
Not to mention, I was a sincere searcher for many years. Yahweh never said a word.
Quote:Also note that God gives over some people to their rejection during their lifetime. He isn't striving with every person up to the moment they die.
Nice bit of fan fiction there.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.