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Theistic Inclinations
RE: Theistic Inclinations
(May 10, 2017 at 5:03 pm)Neo-Scholastic Wrote:
(May 10, 2017 at 4:49 pm)Alasdair Ham Wrote: I just wanted to be clear on your position.

I thought I was pretty clear and what I am saying has been orthodox teaching for 2000 years. No one deserves salvation based on their own merits. Salvation is entirely dependent on receiving forgiveness from Jesus Christ.

And forgiveness from doing things we can't help but do. Not to mention Original Sin.  So I'm supposed to worship an invisible dealer that has stacked the cards against me? Meh.

(May 10, 2017 at 7:24 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: But if God is "something else" that taught us the noble traits we hold like mercy and logic, then the sentence doesn't make any sense.
Many religions sought to picture God as a humanoid with super powers. 

Everything human about us, is learnt and derived from him. He taught us, a step by step. An eternal worth is more of a matter of a group believing that fact and thus prospered, and another group that chose another path and another source and thus perished.
Illusion vs Truth.

The concepts of "mercy" and "logic" don't mean what everyone accepts they mean when talking about religion.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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Theistic Inclinations - by Adventurer - February 23, 2017 at 6:31 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Alex K - February 23, 2017 at 6:38 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Mr Greene - February 23, 2017 at 8:50 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - February 23, 2017 at 11:20 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - February 23, 2017 at 12:14 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Mr Greene - February 23, 2017 at 7:58 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Astreja - February 24, 2017 at 12:23 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by The Grand Nudger - February 24, 2017 at 12:33 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - February 24, 2017 at 6:18 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Angrboda - February 24, 2017 at 9:32 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 9, 2017 at 9:10 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Amarok - February 24, 2017 at 6:21 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - February 28, 2017 at 12:54 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 9, 2017 at 10:08 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Whateverist - May 9, 2017 at 10:34 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 9, 2017 at 11:48 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Harry Nevis - May 10, 2017 at 9:34 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by drfuzzy - May 9, 2017 at 1:55 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Whateverist - May 10, 2017 at 9:43 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2017 at 9:48 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Harry Nevis - May 10, 2017 at 10:50 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 1:10 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2017 at 2:00 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 2:18 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2017 at 4:39 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by RoadRunner79 - May 11, 2017 at 10:07 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Whateverist - May 11, 2017 at 10:24 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2017 at 12:55 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 4:17 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Catholic_Lady - May 10, 2017 at 4:22 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Edwardo Piet - May 10, 2017 at 4:49 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 10, 2017 at 5:03 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Harry Nevis - May 11, 2017 at 9:38 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by The Valkyrie - May 10, 2017 at 7:32 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by WinterHold - May 10, 2017 at 7:24 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Silver - May 10, 2017 at 7:36 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Whateverist - May 10, 2017 at 11:59 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Whateverist - May 11, 2017 at 12:05 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Mister Agenda - May 11, 2017 at 9:22 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 11, 2017 at 9:50 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Harry Nevis - May 11, 2017 at 10:32 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Catholic_Lady - May 11, 2017 at 10:35 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Edwardo Piet - May 11, 2017 at 5:41 pm
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Mister Agenda - May 12, 2017 at 9:52 am
RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2017 at 10:29 am
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2017 at 12:47 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 12, 2017 at 2:44 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Cyberman - May 12, 2017 at 5:03 pm
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RE: Theistic Inclinations - by Neo-Scholastic - May 13, 2017 at 2:34 pm
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