(May 10, 2017 at 11:47 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(May 10, 2017 at 11:31 pm)Whateverist Wrote: Guess God just has to abide by what those scribes scribbled. Pfft, screw god. It's all about the book. Boring.
It isn't so bad if you don't go literal. We know a personal afterlife makes no sense. So better to interpret "heaven" as a current state and "God" is just the internal other, the totality of self which consciously we can only ever be part. So it wouldn't really be about anyone's eternal worth. Rather, one just can't have that sort of bliss and remain in a partial state in rebellion against the something more within. Then again, nothing really rides on it. If hell is simply the status quo it isn't exactly a lake of fire.
It does make me laugh that someone could save hundreds of thousands of lives, be the best person they possibly can, go out of their way to help people, children, small furry animals, and then be sent to hell because he happens to belong to the wrong religious denomination.
What a petty being this god character must be.
I would disagree a lot with the above statements. 1) You appear to think credit should be given, for what one ought to do anyway (being good). 2) Are mistaken (or just choose to ignore) why scripture says that people are judged to separation from God. 3) Nothing in scripture says that God's grace is consequent to what church one attends (there is really only one Church). There's no indication of a theological test, or doctrinal questionnaire. While a simplistic description, it's more of a rhetorical question, that Christ asked “But who do you say that I am?” And it's not about being able to speak the correct answer.
It is said that an argument is what convinces reasonable men and a proof is what it takes to convince even an unreasonable man. - Alexander Vilenkin
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther
If I am shown my error, I will be the first to throw my books into the fire. - Martin Luther