(May 12, 2017 at 10:47 am)Tazzycorn Wrote:(May 12, 2017 at 10:37 am)Brian37 Wrote: IT IS the gerrymandering, and that was going on since Reagan, one could argue even Nixon. How about instead of bitching fight back, don't sit out any local or state election, motivate everyone to speak out every day, and work to expand our maps, sue in the courts. Here in NC the GOP got bitch slapped for what the district court said was "surgical"
Gerrymandering doesn't affect presidential elections, just congressional ones.
Yes it does, not directly if you want to argue that, but it still does because it sets the political tone and marketing long term.
Reagan was not a House Rep or a Senator, he was a President, but because of the collective district marketing those state and congressional leaders helped him win, and after he won he used his office to bust unions and start the age of deregulation and that bleeds into the state and local level regardless.
It is connected regardless. Just like our global economy is connected and we have no choice but to interact.
It is not impossible for a city council member to promote a President, it is not impossible for a town Mayor to promote a president. It is why every President Election you see BOTH parties traveling to all sects of society, rural, suburban and urban to be seen with local and state officials.
A more even district map would motivate more to participate at every level.
But again, if you want to claim the EC sucks, none of what you argued here is offering a replacement, all you are doing is criticizing what we have now.
YOU "The EC SUCKS"
Me, "Ok, fine, what would you move to, what would you offer as a replacement, that STILL protected minorities from mob rule by vote". Whatever you come up with still has to contain anti monopoly concepts, even when it comes to the voter.
Saudi Arabia and Iran have elections too, despite what you might think. Those countries are what mob rule by vote look like.
So again, if not the EC, what? Offer me something.