RE: Christian in need of help (feeling uneasy about God quote)!!
May 21, 2017 at 2:14 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2017 at 2:15 pm by Alex K.)
(May 21, 2017 at 5:01 am)MellisaClarke Wrote:(May 21, 2017 at 4:58 am)Homeless Nutter Wrote: How do you know what's "outside time and space"? If god can be outside time and space - so can be an infinite number of things. There could be billions of "gods". Big Bang started "outside time and space", so by your "logic" - it required no creator. And since our Universe came from the Big Bang - there's no need for a god/creator of the Universe.
And anybody can make up any nonsense and claim it's true, as long as it's "outside time and space". Guess what - I'm outside time and space and I don't see any god around here, so your religious beliefs must be false...
You missed my later edit.
God is outside of space and time, but the big bang is within the range of "things" inside of space and time.
AlexK, imagine Sims creator and his game/computer. You will quickly notice that Sims creator is not inside his computer, outside of the game/computer.
The creator of sims is not limited by the rules of the sims game.
Nor is the sims game as a whole. Meaning, the universe as a whole doesn't need to adhere to the laws governing the physics *within* itself, so you cannot argue that it needs to be created and base that argument on the laws of causality you know from inside the universe.
Btw. Causality is a very subtle thing, there are plenty of phenomena that are apparently uncaused, via quantum physics.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition
