RE: Christian in need of help (feeling uneasy about God quote)!!
May 21, 2017 at 8:41 pm
(This post was last modified: May 21, 2017 at 8:49 pm by MellisaClarke.)
(May 21, 2017 at 10:59 am)Brian37 Wrote:(May 21, 2017 at 4:07 am)MellisaClarke Wrote: I have been seeing too many atheists memes these later months. I wonder about myself now, and I wonder about my goals.
I saw another meme some days ago about God that I am having problems thinking about.
Statement: "Everything has a creator, and God has no creator".
I always think the above as correct.
The meme continues: "Since God has no creator, God is not a thing to be created, or no thing to be created, i.e. nothing; God is nothing".
Am I a true Christian for having problems with the above? Help!
There is no "true" this or that, there are only core positions. Interpretations very from individual to individual.
Neither "Christian" or "Jew" or "Muslim" or "Hindu" or "Buddhist" or even "atheist" are copywrites or trademarks. If you want to know what an individual thinks on a claim, you have to ask the individual.
Having said that, it does not matter to me what you think even given this admission. If you are willing to see your own doubts and are starting to question your position, that is the important thing.
Most humans of religion simply defend what they are familiar with and what their parents sell them. An apology is an apology regardless of religious club.
I think you should consider that our species is much older than any written religion, other life as well existed far longer than humans. Our planet is 4 billion years old, and our species only started writing things down 10thousand years ago. Our galaxy has billions and billions of suns, and our 13.8 billion year old universe has an estimated nearly 200billion galaxies.
It would seem a lot of wast of time and space and material for an all powerful God to take all that time to create a mostly hostile universe only to wait 10,000 years ago to get to being concerned with humans, and even then wait until last century for science to really boom and expand our knowledge.
Doubting is good. Doubting allows you to be free to question what you believe and change your position and update it when better information comes along. If our species never questioned social norms, our species never would have left the caves.
Thanks for your thoughtful answer.
(May 21, 2017 at 11:01 am)Aoi Magi Wrote:(May 21, 2017 at 10:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Melissa, as we said last time, this isn't the place for you. You need to go to a Christian forum or better yet, go to your pastor. This is an atheist forum. You won't find what you're looking for here.
While seeking truth, going to an echo chamber isn't a good idea.
This is what I was thinking. My pastor and friends just aren't providing the comfort I though they would be able to on the matters presented here.
(May 21, 2017 at 10:19 am)Aoi Magi Wrote: @Mellisa, what you are suggesting is the simulation idea which suggests we are living in some form of simulation. If you compare us to sims, realize that we have no freewill and hence heaven/hell is moot. If you do place god outside of "space time", realize that that alone doesn't exempt him from the rules of that super-universe. In your sims analogy, at the basest level, they are energy as much as the human who created them, and at that level the laws of nature are the same.
I am not suggesting that we are simulations.
I just used the sims to try to paint the picture, of creators that can be outside of their creations.
(May 21, 2017 at 10:41 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: Melissa, as we said last time, this isn't the place for you. You need to go to a Christian forum or better yet, go to your pastor. This is an atheist forum. You won't find what you're looking for here.
Thanks Catholic_Lady.
But as I said up above, my pastor and friends are not providing me with comforting answers. Some of my most spiritual friends seem to freeze up at some of my questions, which is shocking to me.
