(May 22, 2017 at 8:55 am)Brian37 Wrote:(May 22, 2017 at 8:31 am)Drich Wrote: To "create" describes an object's beginning. Which is confined by time. Meaning the word create always and can only describe an object within the encapsulation of time. God simply existed before time. Before there were any celestial events to mark the passage of time. It is only with in the confines of time does the demand of a creator exist..
So where did God come from? IDK where did the super dense basketball of pre-big bang come from? Again before either event time there need not be a creation nor creator, as the beginning of time would make the first of anything.
The word :INFINATE is a good clue.
what does being outside of time mean to you? being retarded?
Imagine a dvd representing the whole of time. now imagine on that dvd you know it's contents like any favorite movie. now take the dvd outside the player and place it on the table. You are now outside the "time line" of the dvd. did you suddenly become retarded (anymore than normal I mean?) What I am asking now just because you do not live at any central point on that dvd does it mean you know any less or more of the history on that dvd?
Now to answer a couple others with the same analogy imagine on the same dvd everything had a creation or birthing point of some kind. Now if you created the DVD would your creation then also be required to be on that DVD? No As you and your origins are pre time. As I said the DVD contains all of time and if you have it then you are outside of that time line, that dimension.
Nope sorry, when scientists use words it is a completely different context than your laperson's usage.
"Create" does not mean a magic sky wizard as a gap answer in science. "Create" in scientific terms means countless factors manifesting into an outcome. Otherwise if "poof" and "abra cadabra" required a mythical fictional hero then Thor is the cause of lightening.
Your god belief is merely your own desire a projection of human qualities in comic book form.
13.8 billion year old universe which has been around longer than humans. Nope sorry, not buying your fictional super hero claim.
1) Then 'scientists' need a dictionary.
2) Appearently you are the ne who needs the dictionary:
cre·ate
[krēˈāt]
VERB
creates (third person present) · created (past tense) · created (past participle) · creating (present participle)
- bring (something) into existence:
"he created a thirty-acre lake" ·
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"over 170 jobs were created"
synonyms: produce · generate · bring into being · make · fabricate · fashion · build · construct · design · devise · originate · frame · develop · shape · form · forge · establish · found · initiate ·
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institute · constitute · inaugurate · launch · set up · form · organize · develop - cause (something) to happen as a result of one's actions:
Quote:Your god belief is merely your own desire a projection of human qualities in comic book form."astro"-project much?
Or a 14.2 billion old universe.. or a 20.1 or a 5.5 or a 3.8 or a 10.45 One of these days your all might 'science" will give you a absolute true number, (Or have you forgotten how many times your number has changed in the last 20 years???) but I doubt it will be before God tells it to a scientist bold enough to ask.
Douche bag. you speak with such assurance even when you know in the back of your mind your prize scientist are as sure as any Christian.
