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The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
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RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
(May 24, 2017 at 11:28 am)SteveII Wrote: That you can lean on God and he will be a comfort even through the worst situations. God was always with Jamal. Notice these verses (or any other) do not promise miraculous intervention in your time of trouble. The promise is always spiritual support and/or peace.

Spiritual support and/or peace. It's a shame no one can tell whether a god provides these vague items or not.

1. Yes. I would add that God promises to provide support to cope with the suffering.
2. This line of reasoning does not seem to be the case in the real world. The more suffering in the world, the faster Christianity grows. Christianity is growing at unprecedented rates in the third world even today. I am certainly not saying God causes suffering, but God seems to be more real to those in need. To supernaturally intervene ever time someone asked might not be the greatest good considering the "blip compared to eternity".

Or people get desperate for anything the more they suffer.

(May 24, 2017 at 12:11 pm)alpha male Wrote:
(May 24, 2017 at 11:59 am)Aroura Wrote: So the answers I'm getting are:

God is not just.
No, God is just.

Quote:We are all sinners, so if he saves anyone, then hurray.
That's correct, especially to those of us who are saved.

Quote:He's not saving anyone on merit, either, but apparently picking them for reasons unknown to humans, as apparently even denying him isn't enough to send you to hell.  ?  Is this all correct?
He's saving people on the basis of Christ's atonement on the cross. You can accept it if you want, but you don't have to if you don't want to. If you accept it, that's smart of you, but you didn't merit it yourself - Jesus did.

It sure isn't smart of anybody to believe such tripe.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will - by Harry Nevis - May 24, 2017 at 12:14 pm

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