(May 24, 2017 at 9:07 am)alpha male Wrote:I actually meant to look that up last night, because I started thinking, yeah but the guy with knife kills almost no one, or like one or two (and the ones with guns like the guy in that church killed 15 or 20) but the Islamic guys tend to use bigger guns, cars, and knives and sacrifice themselves int the act to kill as many as possible.(May 23, 2017 at 5:11 pm)Aroura Wrote: Look, I absolutely ABHOR radical islam. And I also admit that mainstream islam has become more conservative over the last 20 or so years (and probably even slightly more radical).
But your statement here (my bold) is just flat out false.
Non muslims carry out 90% of terrorist attacks (2013 - USA)
As they say, lies, damned lies, and statistics. Rhythm likes to say this too but I've never seen him link to the data and I didn't feel like looking it up myself. The article you link to links to this:
https://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publi...rror_05sum
For purposes of your statistic, when the Animal Liberation Front commits an act of vandalism, that counts as one incident. The 9/11 attacks that killed 2,972 people also count as...one incident.
Don't you think you're mixing apples and oranges with this statistic?
Let's look at the deaths and injuries in the report.
Deaths
Total: 3,178
Muslim: 2,984, or 94%
Injuries
Total: 14,038
Muslim: 13,051, or 93%
I don't actually see the totals you quoted here (and it seems to include 9/11) in the link you provided, but it makes sense. The second largest attack in the link you provided was Timothy McVeigh.
I also see that this is all entirely very recent.
People killed by which groups of terrorists
So it seems odd to berate people who wish to discuss the cause. It wasn't like Islam was doing this in large numbers 20 years ago. Shouldn't we discuss what changed, so we can figure out how to change it BACK?
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