The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will

[John V]

So even the Christans here disagree as to the answers to these questions. Is god just? So far it looks like one yer, one no, and one equivocation.

How and why we are saved seems pretty damned important. It is eternal after all. It's a good thing the just god has given everyone an equal shot at it. Not.

So, in your scenario - you've died and are face to face with god, and given a choice between eternal happiness or eternal suffering - you'd choose suffering because god hasn't fully explained all his judgment to you, and from what you do know you don't think god's being fair.

In the end, it comes down to pride. The saved accept that the creator has the right to judge the creation. The unsaved sit in judgment of their creator.

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So even the Christans here disagree as to the answers to these questions. Is god just? So far it looks like one yer, one no, and one equivocation.

How and why we are saved seems pretty damned important. It is eternal after all. It's a good thing the just god has given everyone an equal shot at it. Not.

Christians don't need definitive answers on specific theological points in order to trust in Jesus and the authority of Scripture. It seems to me that you are exaggerating internecine squabbles to justify your incredulity.

And when we do agree, they say that proves that we're unthinking sheep.  

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First, Christianity doesn't claim that anyone's salvation is JUST, remotely or otherwise. Salvation is a function of mercy and grace, not justice...grace is by definition unmerited, it's nonsensical to complain that it's not just. Of course it isn't. That probably doesn't make sense to you. The Bible acknowledges that - "For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing."

Except in the sense that Jesus suffered the penalty of sin on our behalf - an act of Grace that restores justice.

Agreed - I got to that in subsequent posts.