RE: I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris
May 28, 2017 at 11:32 am
(May 28, 2017 at 10:51 am)J a c k Wrote:(May 28, 2017 at 3:46 am)Hammy Wrote: Oh not more of this crap about the liberals being to blame for the right-wing fuckwits who voted Trump in. Sure if we may piss people off further and with good intentions it may have increased votes for Donald Trump... but what's the primary reason the bigoted fuckwits voted for Donald Trump? Their being bigoted fuckwits.
Are you honestly going to pretend that there aren't many, many many bigots in America who all strongly approve of the bigoted language Trump used against Mexicans?
I don't understand this crazy fantasy that there's a such thing as the extreme left. The people who are supposedly so liberal that they are trying to control people's speech aren't liberal. Trying to control speech is the very opposite of liberal.
hammy, no.
Many liberals did in fact fuck up with their purist mentality. It did cost us the election. It wasn't just bigots voting for Trump. It was liberal purists crucifying Clinton and voting for, say, Jill Stein. There is such a thing as the extreme left and that is not a fantasy. Sorry, honey. Also, I just wrote a shit ton of stuff and accidentally closed the window. Fml lol
Yeah it wasn't just bigots voting for Trump... like I said calling people bigots obviously made things worse.
But identifying as liberal doesn't make someone liberal. If someone is trying to shut down free speech that doesn't make them liberal that makes them authoritarian.
My point is that obviously many many bigots voted for Trump for bigoted reasons. Who are the people who hate Mexicans going to vote for, Trump or Hilary?
What would the extreme left be like? I know there are people who identify as left who are extreme. But how can you really be "extremely liberal" if you're trying to shut down free speech?