I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris

[Longhorn]

Bullshit. No I don't. Where the hell did I say it made them any less than a person? I am saying that a bigoted person is a bigot (that's what a bigot is). I'm calling a spade a spade, I'm not saying they're any less of a person.

That's not really what I meant. You said yourself, that you were a fan of Sam Harris, but now that you've heard him say something questionable, you're not just not a fan anymore, you're calling him a bigot. Clearly this is important and a big deal to you, since you made this long winded rant about it, or at least you feel strongly about it. Bigot is a pretty strong word and the way you're using it feels like saying 'he's one of them'. So you used to like him and now that you think he holds an opinion you disagree with, you think of him like a bad person. I don't know if this is clearer.

Duh. No need to be condescending. I'm not saying they're not nice in other respects... I'm saying I have higher standards and I'm not a fan of bigots.

I didn't intend to be. But it did come over like that. See your other post. You said sweet old bigoted ladies aren't sweet. That came across to me like denying their other aspects.

I'm not interested in your condescension, your stating of the obvious and your myopic mischaracterisation of me.

Again, I didn't intend to be condescending. I pointed out what I thought was the cause of the problem described in this thread in your thinking. The way I characterized you is how you honestly came across to me in this thread. If I am wrong, I'm sorry. It was just the impression I got. I see that this is an emotional topic for you, so maybe let's end this here. Perhaps I misunderstood you, you misunderstood me, or even more likely, both.