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I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris
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RE: I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris
(May 28, 2017 at 12:40 pm)J a c k Wrote: There are people who are not homophobic, but don't mind being cool with homophobes and will not stop them from saying their homophobic comments.

I'm sure there are.

I used to be much more tolerant. I used to live with racists who made my life hell because I was sick of hearing their bigoted crap. But I had to because it was where I lived. Since living alone I've felt so free and realized it's my choice who I associate myself with now.

Quote:There are people who aren't racist, yet hang out with racists.

Yeah. I used to hang out with everyone and tried to get along with everyone and be everyone's friend. I can't do that anymore.

Quote:There are people who aren't bigots, yet have bigot friends.

Yep. I used to try and be everyone's friend.

I still have love in my heart for everyone and compassion for the whole world... but nowadays there are many people I can't stomach having a personal friendship with. They have to be at least decent.

Quote:In my personal taste, I don't like to have a friendship with people who tolerate these things.

Same. I used to be different but I can't do it anymore.

Quote:I don't like to know my friend will laugh at racist comments or homophobic rants.

Same.

Quote:I'm getting old. Lol! I choose my friends to my taste, dammit.

Same.

Quote:I can do that.

Same.

Quote:It's great.

It is! Big Grin

Quote:I don't need to waste my time with people I don't like.

Same here! Big Grin

Quote:I've had this conversation before here. People said I don't accept differences in beliefs. Fine. Whatever.

I'll accept differences of beliefs... but not if those beliefs are bigoted.

Quote:I have friends with ideas that don't match my own, but I will never tolerate bigotry

Same! Smile

Quote:. So, I get you, Hammy. We just need to be careful when we label people. I learned this. A person might not be a bigot, yet not give a fuck if others are.

Sure. You know me... I just say what I think. When I think someone is a bigot I call them a bigot. It's not like I don't wait for them to show it first.

Quote:They might not be homophobic, yet they enable homophobics to spread their hate.

That makes them as bad as a homophobe, for me.

Quote:I choose not to break bread with them not because they're bigots, but because they enable those who are.

Same. And this is why I am disgusted with Sam Harris. Even if he doesn't share those views he laughed along with it like it was perfectly fine even though these are serious issues and he should have realized that his guest was making his podcast look disgusting... it wasn't funny or entertaining or clever or true or right. And he just keeps agreeing with this guy. Why he even likes this guy or has him on his show... I don't know. Well, I do know now. Because he holds the same bigoted views on gender. He thinks gender is about what genitals you are born with and he thinks transgender people are "weirdos".

Quote:When it comes to politics, it's different. I can be picky with my friends, because it doesn't affect our healthcare, laws, wars, relationships with allies, etc. With politics I can't sit there and be like, nope. Not absolutely pure and perfect. We need to win.

Well yeah... I don't think being extreme left causes you to vote for someone even more left-wing than Hilary though. I think you could be as far left as possible and like Jill best but realize that Trump was a million times worse and far more right wing than Hilary, and you'd vote for Hilary in order to avoid the lesser evil.

I think it's the stupid-left, not the extreme-left, who vote for Jill rather than Hilary.

Well, actually that's a little harsh. They're not necessarily stupid but they're unwise and lacking in common sense.

The point is, it has nothing to do with their liberalism. It's just people on the left who have high standards but have their priorities wrong and rationality screwed.

I bet I could hold as extreme left views as possible and still realize that the lesser evil is the better option if they are the only one who has a chance at defeating the greater evil.

Quote:It's less passionate and more rational.

^^^Yes^^^^

I don't think being extremely left politically makes someone less rational. I think it's having high standards instead of sensible priorities that makes someone less rational.

Quote:But what do I know. I'm just ranting an internet rant right now and am probably not making any sense. Lol! Hug, Hammy.  Heart
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RE: I Used To Be A Fan But I Am Now Shocked, Disgusted And Appalled With Sam Harris - by Edwardo Piet - May 28, 2017 at 1:02 pm

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