The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will

[Drich]

WTF ? Bobby's soul is exactly what god is looking for?  God knew Jamel couldn't be content with eternity in heaven?

No. Before bobby and Jamel God knew and placed two spirits in situations/lives that would give them the best chance to life to their potential.

And you say God put these souls in these boys knowing the choices they'd make.

Say bobby has the best chance in hearing God's call in a western setting, and Jamel has a better chance in a middle eastern setting. It doesn't mean God will step either through their whole lives. God is simply giving an invivisual plant what it needs for it's best chance of survival.

Well how about this analogy of your freewill idea:

It doesn't, but wait.. Free will is not taught in the bible, nor is it even mentioned. "Free Will" is a Greek construct later added by Converts who wanted to hold onto the philosophy.

God holds a gun to your head (pretend god is more compassionate than his eternity in hell plan).
God says " You are my beautiful child made in my image please come with me to paradise forever!" "Be my beautiful bride
or if you don't I will blow your brains out."  

What if things happens the other way? IDK for some reason I think of God as an exceedingly rich being. and upon learning of how rich he is one is more than willing to put aside and theological or political issues so that they/we may cash in. Especially since we know the answers to the entrance exam and how easy we've told ourselves God can be manipulated. Given the alternitive (once we know God is Real then Hell must also be a bigger than life real as well.) Who would choose Hell? who needs to be corhearsed into heaven once we all see the gates of Hell?

But here's the thing.. Eternity is a long time to serve someone something you hate no matter how Good the pay is. Which is what happened to Satan and his followers. So what is a deity to do, to show little dumb monkey people that they are not all basically good and infact most are monsters in their hearts (which is the determining factor as to whether or not they can indeed serve for eternity or not, and not just pledge false allegience because of all the stuff God has?)

God sets up a blind and puts the monkey people in it for a little while without the automatic or direct knowledge of Him.then simply says come follow me. Those who belong to God will do so, the rest will not.

So this is what your god is offering. As an adult I can see how screwed up that is. 

And again if you are wrong?

I was a born-again christian for many years with the one goal to be a pastors wife.

eeshe...

My aunt had a dream when I was 14 that I married a dark haired pastor. My parents had me meet with our pastors wife and because I give a shit about people I was sold on the idea.

did you?

I had this personal relationship with Jesus you christians talk about. All wrapped up with speaking in tongues, and being slain in the spirit yada yada yada. Well its all a load of crap.

Because what good is the gift of tongues if no one is there to translate? (rhetorical) as that is what Paul asks. Without a translator then the speaker only glorifies themselves, and it would be better for them to remain silent, rather than to disturb the worship of God.

Also a huge waste of time and thoughts. Im fine with people that want to believe in this god of the Bible if it makes them more at peace with death.

Are you stupid or something? How much easier is death when there is no accountability to a God who likes his rules? Meaning how much easier will it be to die with the idea that there is no God?

 

But I have a problem with Christians who think they can explain how their insane god picks and chooses people heaven and hell. It just proves your god is not worthy of love.

As a pastor's wife not a heavy bible reader huh?
Here's the thing sport..

Not everyone is of God. Ever heard the parable of the wheat and weeds/tares? Who are the tares? first what are tares? a tares is a cousin of wheat. it look just like wheat till it goes to seed, and instead of a golden brown seed you get a black one that is not eddible. Again which points back to what Jesus said about fruit. (how you identify a Christian verse a weed/tare) In the story God tell his servants to let them grow together and at the harvest separate them. lest we uproot the wheat when we pull the weeds.

Anyway as I was saying in the parable of mat 13 God plants a feild using the best seed, and that night his enmy came along and sowed tares alongside of the wheat. Which means in the field (The world) there are souls that belong to God and there are souls who do not. However God lets us grow together. Meaning we have all been given the same oppertunity to repent and atone for our sins.

So then how in your preacher wife's mind is that act of 'grace' an evil thing?