RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
May 31, 2017 at 10:07 am
(This post was last modified: May 31, 2017 at 10:42 am by Drich.)
(May 30, 2017 at 10:25 am)Khemikal Wrote: God, apparently, is a lemon to be squeezed, lol. You do you buddy, cash in on that.Death has no bite for me my confused brother. I was a very sickly kid and quite frequently on deaths door either via beating or illness. I have welcomed it more than once in my life. It's the following resurrection/accountablity I always had trouble with.
Quote:How much easier is death when there is no accountability to a God who likes his rules? Meaning how much easier will it be to die with the idea that there is no God?To you, it probably wouldn't be easier. Life and death in the absence of god, you've opined upon before, is a horrible proposition to you.
If there is no God there is no time or conscientiousness. it would be no different than the 1970's back for me. That's easy. the suffering and fear come in when we are promised to be judged as we have judged others.
Quote:To me, it's no more or less easy regardless.Your right dying is the easy part.it the reawaking that's the bitch.
Quote: It's not as if I get to choose whether or not to die in any case, or what happens to me after I die, if anything happens to me. I suppose a terrible person with latent theistic beliefs might find themselves dreading their death if god exists...and relieved if god doesn't...but? The sort of ludicrous rating of difficulty in death as regards the god proposition must have a necessarily limited subset of applicability, but for people who don;t believe, it;s a complete non issue that doesn't make death any more or less difficult.So because you talked yourself out of belief in God.. make death easier.. Isn't that what I said your condition would be?
Quote:You're simply projecting your own fears and doubts about what dreams may come onto others. You should know, by now, Drich....that you're not like other people. Your peculiarities are not theirs...lol...........Indeed, but never the less we are all given one life to live and for that life we must all give an account.
(May 30, 2017 at 11:00 am)Oy Veh.. JamieB please take the time to fix your quotes Wrote: Well, you seem to believe people are evil hearted without god. I believe that Jamal and his American counterpart deserve people to believe in them and guide them to make good choices.Don't you know the oppsite is true? Everyone believing that they are always good leads to self righteousness. Google evergreen university stand off.
Here we have two groups of people two different view points both can't be right, yet both claim that they are.
Quote:The mentality that people are evil spreads hate in so many directions.Who said anything about being evil.. there are many check points one must pass between being good and being evil.
Quote:No I'm not a pastors wife. Are you a pastor? If so, calling people stupid is not promoting Jesus' love.Not much of a bible reader huh? I can count at least 1/2 a dozen times where Jesus Himself call people stupid or asked if they were.
Quote:Ive read way too much of the Bible
Quote:which convinced me that a god who tells his people to cut babies out of woman's tummies, commit genoicde on many different tribes, create a place where we can burn forever. I could go on and on about the character of you god that I will never worship even if your fairytale were true.i was about to say you haven't read enough of the bible to identify me asking you if you were stupid was a valid Christ like question to ask, yet you are all hung up on a little genocide.
Let me ask you as a Christian you do know you were not meant to be nor follow the laws of OT jews right?
drich asks again Wrote:Not everyone is of God. Ever heard the parable of the wheat and weeds/tares? Who are the tares? first what are tares? a tares is a cousin of wheat. it look just like wheat till it goes to seed, and instead of a golden brown seed you get a black one that is not eddible. Again which points back to what Jesus said about fruit. (how you identify a Christian verse a weed/tare) In the story God tell his servants to let them grow together and at the harvest separate them. lest we uproot the wheat when we pull the weeds.
Anyway as I was saying in the parable of mat 13 God plants a feild using the best seed, and that night his enmy came along and sowed tares alongside of the wheat. Which means in the field (The world) there are souls that belong to God and there are souls who do not. However God lets us grow together. Meaning we have all been given the same oppertunity to repent and atone for our sins.
So then how in your preacher wife's mind is that act of 'grace' an evil thing?