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The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will
(May 31, 2017 at 10:07 am)Drich Wrote:
(May 30, 2017 at 10:25 am)Khemikal Wrote: God, apparently, is a lemon to be squeezed, lol.  You do you buddy, cash in on that.    Angel

To you, it probably wouldn't be easier.  Life and death in the absence of god, you've opined upon before, is a horrible proposition to you.
Death has no bite for me my confused brother. I was a very sickly kid and quite frequently on deaths door either via beating or illness. I have welcomed it more than once in my life. It's the following resurrection/accountablity I always had trouble with.

If there is no God there is no time or conscientiousness. it would be no different than the 1970's back for me. That's easy. the suffering and fear come in when we are promised to be judged as we have judged others.


Quote:To me, it's no more or less easy regardless.
Your right dying is the easy part.it the reawaking that's the bitch.

Don't act like you know this.  You just look more foolish, if that's possible.
Quote: It's not as if I get to choose whether or not to die in any case, or what happens to me after I die, if anything happens to me.  I suppose a terrible person with latent theistic beliefs might find themselves dreading their death if god exists...and relieved if god doesn't...but?  The sort of ludicrous rating of difficulty in death as regards the god proposition must have a necessarily limited subset of applicability, but for people who don;t believe, it;s a complete non issue that doesn't make death any more or less difficult.
 So because you talked yourself out of belief in God.. make death easier.. Isn't that what I said your condition would be?

"Talked yourself out of a belief"?  No, you talked yourself into one.  It's more like reasoning out of a belief.
Quote:You're simply projecting your own fears and doubts about what dreams may come onto others.  You should know, by now, Drich....that you're not like other people.  Your peculiarities are not theirs...lol...........
Indeed, but never the less we are all given one life to live and for that life we must all give an account.

Who do we account to? Why?

(May 30, 2017 at 11:00 am)Oy Veh..    JamieB please take the time to fix your quotes Wrote: Well, you seem to believe people are evil hearted without god. I believe that Jamal and his American counterpart deserve people to believe in them and guide them to make good choices.
Don't you know the oppsite is true? Everyone believing that they are always good leads to self righteousness. Google evergreen university stand off.
Here we have two groups of people two different view points both can't be right, yet both claim that they are.

He didn't say "always good". And look who is calling who self-righteous.
"The last superstition of the human mind is the superstition that religion in itself is a good thing."  - Samuel Porter Putnam
 
           

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RE: The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will - by Harry Nevis - May 31, 2017 at 3:17 pm

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