The Problem of Evil combined with the problem of Free Will

[Drich]

It's no longer hope, I seen and experienced all I need to know what is coming. What this life for me now is preparing for what is to come.

And?  What does that have to do with me, what I fear, or why I do what I do?  Nothing.  

Absolutely nothing. That statement of mine is what your statement should have been if you knew or could speak from the experience of facing fear/death/oblivion through Hell. That is why you do not recognize it nor can apply it to your "this is what I would do and why I think I would not fear.)

Mine is the difference between pulling a gun on someone and deciding whether or not to use it and talking about what you would do in a similar situation.

Good for you?  I don't.

give it time. I didn't fear God till I understood how real things were either..

 which is why your able to lay it out so well. because you've given no thought to any of this :thumbsup:

Meanwhile I only think about this stuff when one of your 'contented' peers asks a question like what started this thread.

I already -told- you I don't give this shit the time of day..that's -why- you're wrong about the relative ease or difficulty of death, in my case. 

That's not true you have at least 2 days worth who time was at least patially dedicated to this very subject, as that is how long you have been challenging me with your pov.

Oh ofc, hell is whatever you need it to be at this juncture in the convo and definitely not what you said it was before.  Look, I know that I'm dealing with a liar for christ, and there's no need to argue these points anyway.  Okay, hell is demons poking people after all.  And?  Doesn't change anything about my position on the matter.  

check the record moron it hasn't changed in over 4 years. Your understand or laziness to look up what I have said is what has changed. I go into deep description in my orginal Hell thread about how the nothingness of hell is like hot tar, that the reason it is described as fire is because of the emotional/physical response one has when being consumed by this nothingness.. The closest thing we have to describe the nothingness is fire and that is because of the pain panic and fear that it induces to a factor of 10xs what fire is.

Do you imagine the devil torturing gay people often?  Why do you think that is? I appreciate that you believe that the cosmos gave you a tourist ticket to hell..but if it did, that still doesn't change anything about me.  

What are you talking about? I just told you satan in an inmate in hell not the warden

Like I said, if a god is going to waterboard me to my knees that's what it's going to do.  So?  Why on earth would I want to fight a god, a real god?  Doesn't that seem a little bit pointless, like punching a tree?

Well good! Seems like your spirit is broken. the question is, is it broken enough to simply follow through and repent. After all if we are working under the conclusion God is in control and fighting Him is like punching a tree then why not repent? can you not fathom any existance better than oblivion?

I won;t be maintaining anything..regardless.  Either I;m going to simply cease to exist because there is no god and no afterlife..or, depending on what bullshit you've been caught in..I;m going to cease to exist as punishment for my "sins"....or...gods going to torture me into quivering compliance as punishment for my sins.  In each case, I'm no longer there.  

what about atonement?

What defense, simpleton?  I don't have one, won't be coming up with one, and don't have some sort of secret contigency plan to talk my way out of whatever torture a god has planned.  You must understand how fucking ridiculous that sounds........?  It sounds even more ridiculous to me...because I don't believe what you believe.  Do you understand?

You cant be this stupid..

Look, your idea of what atheists will do, or why they do what they do...relies on a person believing the shit you believe...on being a person -like- you.  It's absurd to even make the conjecture..since atheists, by definition..don;t believe what you believe..theyre not like you.  While you may believe that you;re offering up some sort of sage observation as regards atheists and their plans...you're not doing anything but giving us a window into your own soul...a window which, apparently, you yourself have never peered through...because you're blissfully unaware, while doing it, of what you're doing.

says the one who paint with a very broad brush.. I guess we should be thankful we are not talking about fried chicken and watermelon or we'd all have to cringe read what your thoughts were on people who liked those foods.

I have been doing this a while now, and I can tell you the term atheist means absolutely nothng. you guys can't even agree on a proper working definition. yes you will agree on the basic confession of no God, but then ask al sorts of questions that force on to automatically accept God. Or you will adopt the title atheist and in fact are misotheists.

If you are arguing or even discussing God then your position is not that God does not exist. I know you've tried your darnedest to try and walk that line, but in truth you've failed, as you've been caught doing both here.