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Universal basic income in the future
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RE: Universal basic income in the future
(June 6, 2017 at 5:43 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(June 6, 2017 at 5:31 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No one is even remotely close to replacing cheap and almost unfathomably skilled (to a robot) human labor

Disclaimer:  The work I do is in automation.

I dunno about that - it's at least not universally true.  I share the view that a lot of manual labor is not so easily automated, but if the job you do is able to be done by an expert system - it will be.  (That's not to say UBI is needed or not, at least not for that reason, I'm woefully unqualified to make that assessment.)

I was speaking in specific terms of ag labor.  The problems they handle, even the worst of em, are very sophisticated machine problems.  The tougher issue is that all current ag automation is going to go the way of the dodo faster than ag jobs do.  

What would be needed to keep the ag labor sector from growing is automation that does what all current farm automation does -plus- those sophisticated problems still left to human labor.  Then...that machine would need to be cheaper than equivalent human labor.  

It's a very, very tall order...meanwhile, our population keeps growing. I think it's an interesting example, since we generally think of laborers as the bottom of the heap.

(all that said...if you have a machine, or an idea of a machine that could do it..you should toitally talk to me first, we'll be partners, 50-50...Wink )
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Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - June 6, 2017 at 7:28 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Foxaèr - June 6, 2017 at 9:10 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Jehanne - June 7, 2017 at 8:48 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Jenny A - June 6, 2017 at 3:48 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Isis - June 7, 2017 at 9:20 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by The Grand Nudger - June 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - August 14, 2019 at 1:54 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Anomalocaris - August 19, 2019 at 10:31 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - August 14, 2019 at 2:01 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - August 19, 2019 at 10:09 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Chad32 - August 19, 2019 at 10:58 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - August 19, 2019 at 11:24 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Anomalocaris - August 19, 2019 at 11:54 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Fake Messiah - August 19, 2019 at 12:43 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Anomalocaris - August 19, 2019 at 1:27 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Fake Messiah - August 19, 2019 at 10:19 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - August 19, 2019 at 12:45 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - August 31, 2019 at 2:42 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - August 31, 2019 at 4:12 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - August 31, 2019 at 6:08 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Amarok - August 31, 2019 at 6:34 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Rev. Rye - August 31, 2019 at 9:47 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 2, 2019 at 2:48 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Rev. Rye - September 2, 2019 at 4:41 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - September 2, 2019 at 5:12 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 3, 2019 at 9:47 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Javaman - September 21, 2019 at 7:36 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by onlinebiker - September 21, 2019 at 10:33 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 22, 2019 at 12:25 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by EgoDeath - September 22, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by TaraJo - September 22, 2019 at 8:10 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by TaraJo - September 21, 2019 at 11:17 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by EgoDeath - September 22, 2019 at 12:31 am
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RE: Universal basic income in the future - by EgoDeath - September 23, 2019 at 12:07 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by brewer - September 23, 2019 at 8:18 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 23, 2019 at 9:55 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by brewer - September 23, 2019 at 10:07 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Anomalocaris - September 23, 2019 at 4:25 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Mister Agenda - September 23, 2019 at 8:47 am
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 23, 2019 at 4:01 pm
RE: Universal basic income in the future - by Aegon - September 24, 2019 at 1:29 pm

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