RE: Do you think Science and Religion can co-exist in a society?
June 8, 2017 at 4:21 am
(This post was last modified: June 8, 2017 at 4:45 am by Fake Messiah.)
(June 7, 2017 at 6:05 pm)Jenny A Wrote: Well most early scientists were Christian. The world has both science and religion in most counties. So yes. However, in order for progress to occur, religions must either change in light of scientific findings, ignore the findings, or change the scope of religion. This much of Christianity has been doing for a long time. What there isn't room for is both dogmatic theology regarding the physicalities of the world and science.
Don't you think the most early scientists were pagan? Many ancient Greeks and Romans embraced rationalism and scientific inquiry as a way to understand the world. Think of the accomplishments of people like Aristotle, Ptolemy, Pythagoras, Democritus, Archimedes, Pliny the Elder, Theophrastus, Galen, and Euclid. If any faith should get credit for science, it would be paganism.
When Christianity took hold in Europe about 500 CE, science didn't come into its own until much later. The authoritarianism of the church suppressed the kind of freethinking that really did produce modern European science. Heresies like Arianism (the notion of God not as a trinity but a single being) and Manichaeism (the belief that God is benevolent but not omnipotent) were brutally suppressed. Indeed, the notion of "heresy" itself is explicitly anti scientific. If science and Christianity co-exist so nicely why that thousand-year delay? Why, if science and Christianity co-existed nicely and Christianity promoted scientific innovation during the Middle Ages, did Europe show no economic growth for a millennium?
(June 7, 2017 at 3:57 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote: Some may be interested in the following.... and checking your facts.Sure, let me check THE FACTS: I and rest of the atheists acknowledge biological evolution; you don't. Biological evolution is a scientific fact; 6 day creation is not. You were taught against scientific facts; you are against science and reason. You lose this argument.
http://strangenotions.com/gods-philosophers/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"