(June 14, 2017 at 9:55 am)Tizheruk Wrote: There is just so much wrong with this just some points to go overYour words are cracking me up. Thanx for bringing more light to the crazy that is god believers. So fucking funny
Quote:The death of Jesus on the Cross was horrible and brutal. Beyond horrific. The difference between His crucifixion and a horror movies that in the end, the horror movie does not have a happy ending. it leaves you even more terrified
Horrible not really. The immortal man god was tortured a bit and wound up in hell three days . So essentially a long weekend. And not a happy ending .He got away from the assholes who killed him id say that's a happy ending . then again he has to spend the rest of eternity with the being how orcastrated it so yeah that might suck.
Quote:BUT with Jesus' death, it only lasted 3days. Then He rose from the dead. Over three hundred people witnessed His resurrection. He was alive.
Nope if Jesus existed he's likely dust by now
Quote:He is the God of joy and peace and love and forgiveness. And He is also righteous and Holy. He is so much bigger than this world and this earthly life
Nope by any description that is not him tooting his own horn or the babbling of his sycophants . He checks none of the boxes above.
Quote:There is no ending. With the Lord, is your Grandma and Bumpa. Your Mom and Dad, your sissies too. Pastor Bear. All those times of joyous laughter, and purity and love. Being goofy. Dancing around singing in our shower caps. So innocent and sweet. All the lullabies you can sing. Those will all be in Heaven. The love and protection we feel with our families
I can't speak of the persons in question. But all I can say is I find this statement utterly beyond belief . The only thing I can conceive actual people in heaven doing is trying to kill themselves to escape. If not this then the only conclusion I can come too. Is either there illusions or their minds have been altered and thus there already dead.
Quote:It's the love of the Lord. Forgiving each other and being forgiven. That's Jesus and His love
Having others forgive you is cheap . Having to learn to forgive yourself is meaningful and far harder.
Quote:Why would anyone ever want to not have any of that
See above . And for the family bits .I have had that . With them when they were alive to ask more is cruel.
Quote:Apart from the Lord we cannot and would not have any of that. No good times
In life this is factually false . If you mean hell then I'm no worse off then in heaven
Quote:those horror movies become the reality. And one cannot turn it off
Then that's the way it is . If that's the price for being myself then I accept it. And I have already spoken of why the fear and pain are irrelevant.
Quote:There is no ending and relief that's over or will come to an end
Yup and you ask us to willingly walk into the arms of a being that would conceive such a thing
Quote:I speak as someone with just a hint of what that would be like, and my nightmares and terrors only lasted around 10 or 11 years. Hell is never waking up or having them go away.
She speaks of nightmares If go permits something worst then mine . Then he is a piece of shit indeed.
I was a born-again christian for many years then I got woke.. and now life is better in so many ways. It's taking me time to see my value and find my voice, but the reward is liberating knowing my path is not dictated or controlled by fear of death and the unknown. Casting off the shackles of religion is pretty fucking awesome. The beautiful people I've met on this forum have more heart and compassion than any group of people I've been apart of. So back off Jesus and followers, because this bitch is done with Chu. 
