RE: Member of Congress Among 5 Reportedly Shot at Baseball Field
June 15, 2017 at 3:32 pm
(This post was last modified: June 15, 2017 at 4:03 pm by Secular Elf.)
(June 15, 2017 at 1:10 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(June 15, 2017 at 1:02 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: True, but Bernie did repudiate the shooter's action:
http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/...ng-sot.cnn
And still no apology for Trump's 2nd Amendment "joke" about Hillary.
Yep. And we will never hear one come from his lips.
(June 15, 2017 at 1:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote:(June 15, 2017 at 1:27 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: Just took a look at the FB group. Some are criticizing the violence. I do find anti-Republican and anti-Conservative, and anti-Dominionist groups appealing. The frustrating thing about groups, having started a meetup group once myself for freethinkers in my area, is the lack of action. If you are talking about a problem and issues but you are not doing anything about it, not acting, then what is the point? It is useless chatter. Which is why I abandoned my group, nobody was willing to do anything, they were all talk. This is a serious problem, because if you are faced with a great threat, like Dominionism, like the slow creation of a dictatorship, and you do nothing, then it is your own damn fault for not opposing it if you get caught up in its tentacles. If you are aware of danger then for fuck's sake do something about it!
I am anti-republican, but not pro violence. Yes, I am against "fuck you I got mine" economics and I am against "die quickly" health care policy. And I am against their far right bigoted base. No I will not apologize for that. But none of what I just said is oppression or a call for violence.
Overall, I am not for violence either. But neither am I a pacifist. If someone gets up my nose I am going to defend myself. If I see someone else suffering from an attack from another, if I am able, I will intervene, by voice, by hand, or with a two-by-four, or with a gun, if need be. We all know human history, or should. We should all know what happens when the strong think they can pick on the weak or see weakness and take advantage of those they think that are weak. I do not want to see us Seculars as a community, or any community, become the prey of the Right Wing. We need to recognize that we may become targets and take the necessary steps to prevent us and others from becoming victims of another genocide.
(June 15, 2017 at 2:18 pm)Shell B Wrote:(June 15, 2017 at 1:45 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I don't see how taking this opportunity to bash Republicans when Republicans were just murdered for being Republican is going to be at all productive or do any sort of good. Which is precisely what I was seeing most of here when I made that post. Though I haven't read the last several pages, so don't know if the tune has changed since.
Did any of them die? Last I heard, there was no murder–"just" attempted murder. I'm not minimizing. I honestly don't know if the news changed.
I agree that bashing is getting no one anywhere. However, I do think the Republicans in office will have to take some responsibility for the political climate in this country at some point. Eight years of Obama-bashing and then putting Trump in office has obviously triggered some folks. We are going to keep having radicals if we don't do something about the rhetoric. We are going to keep having shootings if we don't do something about gun control. The best way to treat this situation is to use it as an opportunity to fix some things.
Agreed. Things need to be fixed. As far as a wake up call for Congress, it should not only be a wake up call that they are now targets, but that it should also be a wake up call that We the People expect Congress to drop their bullshit fighting with one another from both sides of the aisle and actually do some bipartisan work on important issues. Americans are facing some important issues that need to be addressed: a balanced national budget, tax reform, safe drinking water, a living wage, etc., etc., etc. Not addressing these issues along with the rhetoric is what is stressing us out and making us more angry. Some of us are losing patience with this shit.
(June 15, 2017 at 2:21 pm)A Theist Wrote:(June 15, 2017 at 2:09 pm)Secular Elf Wrote:To suffocate your dumbass.
You are a Dominionist piece of shit. Why are you breathing my air?!
You so funny, you make me laugh.

(June 15, 2017 at 2:52 pm)A Theist Wrote:(June 15, 2017 at 2:31 pm)Brian37 Wrote: And that is why they were called a piece of shit, because they support a fucking asshole who spent a year selling scapegoating demagoguery and calls for arrest and "2nd Amendment" solutions.Cuss away dumb fuck. I don't give a shit. Never have. Fuck the far left, fuck leftist anarchists, and fuck crazy ass far left assassins. Kiss my ass, too.
NO sorry, you don't get to blame others for responding to the vile tone Trump set during his campagin.
So now suffocating those whom offend you is a valid way of making an argument? And you wonder why you get cussed out?
(June 15, 2017 at 2:44 pm)Secular Elf Wrote: Yes indeed he was politically motivated. No question. Now here is where it gets more interesting. When members of the Left Wing become radical, it is only because it is in direct relation to the radical positions of the Right Wing. I hate you just as much as you hate me. I am becoming radical because your fucking Conservatives are a threat to me and my people.Oh boy! Fuck me! A far left radical hates me! I'll lose sleep tonight! I don't feel one way or another about you. I don't give if you hate me. You're no sweat off my ass.
There is no reason why you should be here then. Move along little boy, go back home and play in your cat's litter box.
"The price of freedom is eternal vigilance."--Thomas Jefferson