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A Question From Atheists
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RE: A Question From Atheists
Quote:So, the word "God" can be re-defined as whatever the hell you want it to be? A basketball on a desert island? The mighty dollar? A Universe? 

A duck? 

A hat?

I don't believe the Universe is "God". It's the Universe. 

Why is it so important to you that folks just call something, anything "God"? 
Does it soothe you? 

I don't understand.

Quote:I can call my left shoe a god, but that doesn't make it any more special than it was before. The same applies to the universe. What does calling it a god do for it?
We do not call anything god. We consider the things that have been called god throughout the human history to be gods.

I did not present you my own or an arbitrary definition of god. In fact "god is the universe" is rooted in one of the oldest religious texts which are referred to as The Vedas. It can also be traced back to ancient greek philosophers. There are also certain sects in Christianity, Judaism and Islam which hold similar views. Anyways, I do not want to insist on this definition, I just provided a widespread and ancient definition of god which clearly cannot be negated. 




Quote:OP, when the Muslims kill and yell allahu Akbar, are they saying the universe is great?

We all agree the universe is great? Why do they need to kill in it's unconscious honour?
I assume those people who you are referring to have a different conception of god. I don't think they believe universe is god. This belief is found in various Hindu traditions for example and also mystical branches of Abrahamic religions (including Islam). On a side note, "Allahu Akbar" means God is Greater (than whatever you can imagine) not God is Great. This is a very common mis-translation.


Quote:I am curious as to what you are trying to accomplish here, will you leave with the opinion atheists cannot disprove the existence of god?
I would ask you to bring us proof. You seem to be playing word games.
I was genuinely interested to know what most Atheists mean when they say "I don't believe in god(s)". Because this sentences seems non-sensical concerning some definitions of the term god. Therefore it needed some clarification for me. I also thought that bringing up this topic might be informative for atheists who are not aware of some conceptions of god which are not common in the West. I do not have any intention to prove anything. 

Quote:Since he ignores posts refuting his absurdities and continues under the false belief that atheism means we deny the existence of gods, I'm guessing he's here to tilt at straw-men.
I tried to answer all the posts in this thread. I'm sorry if I happened to miss yours. I also cannot correlate the content of this thread with what you describe here. If you are referring to the concept of "god as the universe itself" as "my absurdities", you can do some research using the term "Pantheism" to verify that this concept of god is not my invention.

Anyways, I thank everyone for providing their insights on this. I learned that most likely you guys are denying the Christian/Muslim/Jewish god which is a person and will judge people after they die, etc. and also I learned that you find the Pantheist's god as something strange and inapplicable to the concept of god. Which might mean your conception of god is limited to the common conception of followers of Abrahamic religions.
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A Question From Atheists - by nosferatu323 - June 22, 2017 at 5:03 pm
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