A Question From Atheists

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.6. We come across "The universe itself", no matter how much we try we can never conclude that "The universe itself" does not exist.

Just because we determine that the universe exists does not mean we have to accept an unsupported assertion that it is some kind of gawd. This is the flaw in your argument.

If someone wants me to believe the universe is some form of gawd, they need to provide evidence to support the claim.

Add this proposition number 0 in the beginning to fix this:

0. The definitions for X that we pick up from the dictionary are assumed to be true. They are our premises. All the definitions that there are for X in authentic dictionaries and encyclopedias are assumed to be valid and do not need any sort of justification. They are the basis of our knowledge and true. 

1. We want to talk about the existence of X,


2. first we look into dictionaries and encyclopedias to learn what X is before we start talking about it. So we can avoid meaning different things by X and remove the possibility of equivocation. 

3. We find out that X has many different meanings, so we pick them one by one (not two of them at the same time) and investigate them separately. This way it's clear what we mean by X in each investigation.

4. First we pick up Zeus we investigate it, since there is no evidence to suggest Zeus exists, we conclude that Zeus does not exist. Great! This is resolved.

5. Next one, we pick up "The creator of universe" again using the same argument we conclude that "The creator" does not exist. we do this for many times and we are happy.

6. We come across "The universe itself", no matter how much we try we can never conclude that "The universe itself" does not exist.

7. We write a report of our investigation: "We discovered that 99 definitions of X lack the evidence for their existence, but 1 of them clearly exist" 

8. So we can say "I don't believe in these gods [comes the list of 99 definitions]" but since we found 1 definition of god which is existent, we cannot assert "We do not believe in any gods"