(June 23, 2017 at 4:14 pm)nosferatu323 Wrote:(June 23, 2017 at 3:54 pm)FatAndFaithless Wrote: So what point are you trying to make, exactly? Your posts have been confusing, rambling, and irrelevant. Can you just, please, clearly and concisely state the point you're trying to make. For all our sake.
Yes of course.
1. Initially I was interested to know what's an Atheist's assertion.
2. I learned that many assert "I don't believe in any gods"
3. This seemed to me to be a nonsensical proposition, because I knew that god can, but does not necessarily, refer to something which's existence cannot be negated. Like the universe.
4. So I thought maybe it's a good idea to discuss it with you guys to clarify it together, whether the proposition is nonsensical in some cases or not
5. We followed the discussion with Khemikal who believed the proposition is ok and not nonsensical
6. At the end there seems to be a degree of agreement with some of us, but I couldn't reach a unanimous conclusion with Khemikal and we maintained our initial positions at the end
7. A good conclusion could be don't say "I don't believe in any gods". Because it's logically flawed. If you followed my reasoning. OR it's perfectly fine to say "I don't believe in any gods". if you followed Khemikal's reasoning.
Red mine.
There, fixed for you. Your claim that the universe = god is incorrect. Might as well claim a rock = god.
Oh, and guess what. You can't argue something into existence. There is no logical fallacy. Your fantasy remains a fantasy.
Being told you're delusional does not necessarily mean you're mental.
