Both Bernie and Hillary supporters pissing me off.

[A Theist]

You Dems need a message. They don't have one. As you said, it's not enough for them to "not be Trump". Trash the progressive platform crap. It cost the Dems the presidential election and it cost the Dems the special elections. All over the country the democrats are losing state and local elections as well. The Dems lost the white male blue collar working class in the rust belt and coal states. These were voters who hadn't voted for a Republican President in thirty plus years. Those voters blamed the Dems for their factories and mines shutting down to please the environmentalists, for imposing more federal regulations, and watching their jobs move to other countries. Trump came along and promised to bring those jobs back. He okayed the Keystone pipeline and eased epa restrictions, to name a few. If the Dems want to win future elections they better figure out a good message to win back their once largest and loyal base, the white male blue collar working class.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/201...gulations/

A majority of U.S. adults (59%) say stricter environmental laws and regulations are worth the cost, compared with roughly a third (34%) who say such regulations cost too many jobs and hurt the economy, according to the survey, conducted Nov. 30 to Dec. 5.

Given the last general election and the most recent special elections I've pretty much given up on trusting polls. Despite the polls showing Hillary way ahead of Trump, Hillary lost. Despite the polls giving Trump a low job approval rating, and the Dems thinking they could capitalize on that, still lost the recent special elections. Forget the polls. They haven't been doing the Dems any good. Either the Dems figure out a message to win back the white male blue collar working class in the rust belt and coal states or they can figure on losing more elections.

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She already lost two bids for the presidency. One to Obama in the democratic primaries before the 2008 general election, and the second, she lost to now President Trump. Besides, she has too much political baggage, she's too establishment, and too much controversy.

She won the popular vote. I would not call her unelectable.

Only because of two states, California and New York. Without one of those two she wouldn't have had the popular vote. But, sorry. You need the majority of electoral votes for the win.