RE: A Question From Atheists
June 24, 2017 at 10:12 pm
(This post was last modified: June 24, 2017 at 10:14 pm by nosferatu323.)
(June 24, 2017 at 9:43 pm)ignoramus Wrote: OK, 323, but have you also considered the elephant in the room?
Well this is going off-topic. I hope it's fine.
Quote:Maybe everything is exactly how it is without the need to philosophise? It is possible.I think elephant in the room is the case, but I guess the playing the philosophical games are necessary in order to realize they are not needed.
Quote:What makes the universe the ultimate truth? It's just stardust?What is ultimate truth? Is it a thing? I wouldn't include that term in the terminology of my belief. The universe is sufficient for whatever that you mean.
Quote:Again, everything hinges on someone's underlying notion of ID or independent conscious entities. Soul?Not really, there is nothing OUTSIDE of universe and I'd say there is no independent entity except the Universe.
Quote:If I'm not part of this universe, then I'm not natural? Everything in this universe -is- natural by definition.I suggest that "You" are non-existent not unnatural. If you are concerned with your body, it's just part of the universe like a stone is. But I suggest the thing that you refer to when you say "I" is non-existent. Maybe you can verify it by close inspection?
Quote:This is why theists know this and try to shove their skydaddy outside of space and time, ie, not in this universe?We are talking about Pantheism not Theism. Let's stick to it. There is nothing "outside" of the universe in a pantheistic belief.
