RE: If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new
June 25, 2017 at 1:08 pm
(June 25, 2017 at 12:01 pm)Aliza Wrote:(June 25, 2017 at 11:26 am)Brian37 Wrote: And Altas, while I am glad you are a liberal Muslim, please understand that "it's a test" is bad argument Christians and Jews use as well.
In what sense do Jews use the term "test?"
If Hindus believe that bad things happen because of karma, does that belief change their response to dealing with the problem?
Been at this online since 01. I have heard "its a test" from all three and Hindus and Buddhists as well. You have a bias and are suffering from selection bias which creates sample rate error.
"A test" and "karma" are BOTH bias religious views as an attempt to explain why bad things happen.
Muslims, "Bad things happen to good people and here is why"
Jews, "Bad things happen to good people and here is why"
Christians, "Bad things happen to good people and here is why"
Hindus, "Bad things happen to good people and here is why"
Buddhists, "Bad things happen to good people and here is why".
You have tunnel vision because you are stuck in a pet claim like everyone else.
The real reason bad things happen to good people is because they do, because we observe them. Again, nobody wants to get cancer, nobody wants their house blown away by a tornado. Nobody wants to die because of a volcano exploding.
Kids don't die by the hands of a child molester because a ground troll was screwing with the neurons in the criminal's head. In reality, those criminals do that very vile thing because of multiple factors, many times because of the physical abuse of their parents or repeated abuse growing up by someone the victim knows. Once the abuser can grow up to abuse.
There is no magic needed, no holy book or holy person needed, to explain why good or bad happen. "test" is not an appropriate word to describe or explain why bad things happen. And again, especially not if one is going to make the naked assertion that a cosmic security guard is looking out for you.
If humans want to reduce harm then only humans can do that. And the way to do that is to accept the natural reasons things go wrong and seek answers in reality to find ways to reduce that harm. It is why doctors and scientists study cancer, to find cures for them. It is why criminologists interview child molesters, not because they advocate it, but by interviewing them they can understand where the wiring went wrong, and understand the tactics they use to warn parents and kids not to fall for it.
But once you assert a cosmic security guard as the answer the logic fails. No sane parent in a lucid state with no mental problems who has the ability to prevent harm to their kid, would not do so. In the context of an all powerful God it would seem this claimed god would have even less excuse.