If God of Abraham is true, then why didnt he use his intelligent design to make a new

[Brian37]

^^^ This. So very much this. As I said before, if the sweetest woman I will ever have the honour to know had to die for the sake of some obscure "test", then fuck this test, fuck this god, and quite frankly fuck you too for having such a shitty dismissive attitude to the lives of other people.

Think for a second, the purpose of a trial is to build character, death would be counter productive...

Sorry but now all you are doing is switching the word "test" with "trial".

Would you consider it a "trial" if you worked in a restaurant, and your boss never told you about the gas leak, or anyone for that matter, and while you were working the kitchen blew up, several people died but you barely survived? I'd fucking sue in that case. I'd make sure the fucker not only paid my medical bills, but also spent some time in prison for manslaughter.

You are playing word games. Violence and death suck, everyone gets that, but there is no puppeteer setting us up in a rigged game. 

And witnessing trauma DOES NOT always "build character". There are even cops and military whom after witnessing violence and death, suffer from PTSD and end up committing suicide.

And this also insults the memory of my own mother. I watched her die. No, it wasn't on a battlefield or in trying to save a kid from a house fire. I watched her slowly decline over a couple week period. And even without the violence I can tell you it is nothing anyone wants to see, but worldwide death happens from everything on average 50 to 60 million times per year. 

Death happens in the womb, in birth, it happens in childhood and adult to old age. We die from everything worldwide. Disease, famine, accident, natural disaster, man made disaster, crime and war. Death is not sexy at all, it is ugly and for you to romance it with the word "trial" is no different than using the word "test" to me.

"Trial" doesn't explain shit. Only study of the causes helps us avoid the causes. And even in trying to avoid all the countless ways we can die, we still do.

The urge to survive after facing such things should not be trivialized with hollow cliches. If we wish as a species to extend our ride, we seek data and study that data and adapt to that data.

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The story of Adam and Eve illustrates several of the Ten Commandments from Exodus 34:12-26.

The first one is the First Commandment, about worshiping no other God except Yahweh, the God of the Hebrews and the God of the armies. Adam and Eve broke that commandment when they followed the serpent and ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil.  Exodus 34:14

Yahweh then showed them mercy, which is a recurring theme in the Bible.

The second one is the Fourth Commandment, about the firstborn males being Yahweh's to do with as he pleases.  Adam, being the original golem, was Yahweh's to do with as he pleased.  That theme is repeated in Romans 9:20-21, which says that the potter has the right to make one vessel for honor and another vessel for garbage.

The story also encapsulates the ebb and flow of the relationship between the Israelites and their God Yahweh that's repeated in all of the biblical stories.

Remember, all of the biblical stories are based upon the passage in Exodus 34:10-28.  Once you understand that it helps you to see which of the Ten Commandments the story is illustrating.  Exodus 34:10 is the basis for all of the miracles.

Without realizing it, you give yourself away. You keep using the word, and I agree, "story" because that is really all it is, a story.

Our species morality is not in an old book of myth, or any holy writing of any religion for that matter.

It does not take a preacher, Imam, Rabbi, Buddhist monk, Hindu guru  to figure out that cooperation works better than force or crime. Sure, religion is where most of the world thinks morality comes from, but that is not really where it is coming from. If you can accept that others outside your pet belief can do good, and they can accept you can do good, what that tells me, is that our morality is in us, not the artificial labels humans invent. There is not one nation, friend or foe alike that does not have hospitals or prisons. 

Every religion in the world has followers who can point to stories of kindness. That list does not display a loving god, but a selfish narcissist. The first 4 commandments are all about kissing his ass. But all religions set up fake power structures and give power to those who merely claim it but cannot universally demonstrate the credibility of their claims.

The vast majority of our species, a population of 7 billion, mostly merely adapt the religion of their parents because the get sold it in youth, prior to having the ability to question.