A Question From Atheists

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I don't know that you have to know a whole lot about bio to comment on that one, honestly.  We're just spitballing, anyway, it;s a ideline.  Can you think of ways that posessing this ability might go wrong..is all I'm asking?

Once the "I" is gone nothing can go wrong. You are no longer "concerned" about anything. The "I" is no longer there to "die" or to "experience pain" or whatever. 

So, with no agency..what does the turning on again...that was the question.  How is it that the guru returns to tell the tale?  

the lack of agency doesn't mean you are gone silent. The guy drops the "I", and watches the dropped "I" becoming a guru, prophet, etc. and telling others weird and nonsensical stuff. Turning on the agency is a different story, some say it's impossible.

Right, but...if we have that ability, if there's a switch somewhere in us that can be activated or even potentially malfunction..then -why- isn't it natural.  That's what I'm asking.  Why don't we see it more often, or..really..at all?

Your current state is natural, and you will naturally step into the next stage of your evolution when the time comes or in other words you'll get retired from the chain of evolution, since evolution will be irrelevant when "I" is gone, in other words you get liberated from Samsara and attain Nirvana, in other words the Lord forgives you and pulls you out from the depths of hell and you step into his Heaven, etc.

It seems relevant, to the people on the bus, to my body lying on the savanah...to just not eating some bad shrimp and ghosting out into oneness with the universe..you know?  

The "I" is dropped and with it all of its concerns. What can go wrong? The Universe is perfect.

It's not like the movies, lol...you don't lie there getting philosophical.  You go into shock. Most people piss themselves..in my experience.  I certanly wouldn;t trust any "feeling of one-ness with the universe"...or separation from it..reported by someone who was bleeding out.  Cheifly, because..you know...they're bleeding out.  A fair few of their sensory and cognitive systems are deeply compromised, at that point.  

It's not about getting philosophical. Once the "I" is gone, it's literally gone. You can watch the dropped "I" slowly die in pain in absolute peacefulness.

What's "keeping the awareness"?  That sounds alot like agency, like a self.

persistent practicing to keep the awareness makes sense and is necessary as long as "I" is there. Once it is dropped, There will be no agency to "keep awareness" or to do anything else.