A Question From Atheists

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Well, obviously, but what about all the other people..on the bus I;m driving?  What abou the people who depend on me, after I get eaten by the lion?  I don;t know, but it seems to me as though there would be a notable effect, things would be happening in the world...if we had this ability, or this sort of self switch.   Most of them very, very bad™.  

What other people? There are no people. There is the Universe, nothing else. When your "I" is dropped other's "I"s are also dropped. Nothing can go wrong in the Universe. Does things go wrong in far space or in deep sea? The notion of "wrong" emanates from the fear of death which depends on the "I", once it's gone nothing can go wrong.

Hopefully, none of those who say that also claim to have achieved this state......because that would be perplexing.  I still can't determine in what meaningful way the I is gone?

The I is gone when you realize that it is already gone? The I is gone when you realize that there was never an I? The I is gone when you believe it's gone? The I is gone when you let it go? can you make any sense out of it? You'll somehow need to face a voluntary death. One aspect of emphasis on "martyrs" in different religions is to symbolize this for the mass. 

We are pre-supposing the existence and inexistence of "I" at the same time. There is no way to get rid of the contradiction through out our talk. The only solution is to drop the assumption that I exists. You ready?  

The next stage of my evolution?  Is this ability a mutation.....?

Clearly not. "being retired from evolution" is more appropriate. 

The universe is suddenly perfect for the simple fact of no longer having my self in it?  That seems harsh, lol?

The Universe has always been perfect, was there any imperfection in the formation of our galaxy? the perfection and imperfection are irrelevant when you consider that there is only "the laws of nature" and nothing more. The "I" only obscures this fact.

That doesn;t sound like a bit of a contradiction in terms, to you?  Again, though,. this is kind of what I;m talking about.  Why don;t more people die from meditating, or from this switch being accidentally flipped?  Why is it that it takes getting shot, for example?  What's holding it in or keeping it from malfunctioning all the other times?  

The Universe watches the dropped "I" dying in pain with absolute peacefulness. You can pick this one, at least the contradiction is gone I guess.
I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Why someone should die because of an accidental switch? These accidental switches might be the kind of "spiritual experiences" people report, they drop the "I" temporarily and after they pick it up they attach all sort of their personal brand of delusions to the experience. The experience itself isn't anything "spiritual" of course, because that word doesn't mean anything. I still don't get it why you expect people die because of malfunctioning?

In fact there is no "malfunction" in the Universe, the Universe just works they way it works, there is no other "proper way" to compare the Universe with it and conclude that it's malfunctioning. 

Okay.  So, again sort of spitballing..but would that mean that involuntary functions of the body would or could continue?  Breathing, for example?  Where are the mysteriously comatose guru bodies......or just random joes on the street.  Vegged out, completely gone behind the eyes, as it were...but breathing?

I'm not sure I understand what you are talking about. The normal functions of the body involuntary or voluntary will be there, without the "I"  the "voluntary" label is gone though. Please clarify it If I'm not getting what you're saying.